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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 01:21 PM
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President Obama: "We gather here to remember on hallowed ground..."
Edited on Sat Sep-11-10 01:22 PM by Contrary1
hal·lowed

adjective

1.made holy or sacred
2.honored as holy; venerated

So is the ground "hallowed" because the attack occurred there? Or is it because of the number of people who died? If there had been for example, one victim, would the ground still be considered "hallowed"?

Maybe it's just me. I don't like the term. And for those who do, how can they justify anything at all being built there?
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 01:30 PM
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1. My take is that it is considered hallowed in the venerated sense.
Many individual acts of heroism took place there. Many heroic people gave their lives in an attempt to rescue others. Many innocent people died in a tragic event.

I think that building a monument dedicated to these people and events is appropriate - but possibly a little over the top and sentimental depending on the approach.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 01:36 PM
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3. Agreed. I was tremendously moved while visiting the USS Arizona memorial,
despite many who were running, laughing, and snapping happy photos. Pretty sure I would feel the same at the WTC site.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 01:35 PM
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2. wouldn't the Fresh Kills DUMP be MORE "hallowed" ?
That's where the victims remains ended up.

IMO, Ground Zero is more like Unholy ground.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 01:39 PM
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4. Wow, just wow.
Talk about an insensitive remark.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 07:47 PM
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14. facts are neither sensitive or insensitive.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 01:40 PM
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6. Mortal remains? It is the acts and events that are to be remembered.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 02:22 PM
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10. many more pieces are at the 9-11 site and not large enough to find
Edited on Sat Sep-11-10 02:23 PM by stray cat
it is a burial ground and the only one most victims ever will have
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 03:13 PM
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12. that's right...
there's a mechanical process called "mechanical vertical pulverization"...

I won't get into it.

But let's just say that the dust that covered the city, the dust that covered the entire region WAS the mortal remains.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 03:02 PM
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11. Hmm...how strange a thing to say. Disturbing.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 01:40 PM
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5. our problems go way beyond semantics
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 01:43 PM
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7. I predict we'll leave it a gaping wound for several years.
It's an effective prop to use annually to justify the sacrifice (squander) of blood, freedom & treasury.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 01:51 PM
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8. Places where massacres occurred are considered hallowed ground.
I would think that it would be appropriate in this case because many of the bodies were never recovered. Many loved ones never returned, so that place is their resting place.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 02:21 PM
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9. Are indian burial grounds and battle fields hallowed ground
I think most progressives are not in favor of destroying burial grounds of native Americans or other if people object
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 06:04 PM
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13. I think President Obama is being nice. nt
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