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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 08:08 AM
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I'm Nervous - Very Very Nervous
I'm Nervous about the exuberation that is being displayed over the recent teabag victories.
It's far from over.
Sure, they have increased the odds of dem victories but, they have not insured them.
And if we lose?
It's like we are doubling down.
Now, it is far more important that we win these races.

Teabaggers Untie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZoq3gPTgnE
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IndianaJoe Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 08:20 AM
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1. Remember this:
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 08:27 AM by IndianaJoe
These "victories" are in primaries - not general elections. They involve the nuttiest of the nuttiest people - party zealots voting on the credentials of other zealots.

The big news about T-bag successes, for the most part, has been coming from wierd places (Alaska, Utah, Delaware etc.) where usually odd circumstances prevailed. (Bennett was ousted in a vote that only involved a couple of thousand people; Delaware was a primary where only registered Republicans could participate, etc.)

Also, we're still 45 days away from the election. Most normal people haven't even focused on the mid-terms yet. Most won't focus until a day or two before.

The media hasn't had much to talk about except the Teapartiers. They've ginned a lot of this up and, I would contend, overstressed the importance of these zanies. Fox News has in many ways created and perpetuated the Tea Party. Fox News isn't America.

The Tea Party is radical as hell. To say they represent mainstream American thinking would be a big, big stretch. Most Americans aren't worried about socialism, big government, deficits or masturbation. They just want jobs. Most don't see the Tea Party's "platform" (to the extent it stands for anything) as a solution to the nation's problems.

Lastly, the Dems have only recently begun to push back. Stay tuned and don't fret too much.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 08:29 AM
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2. Be afraid. Be very afraid. This does not increase the odds of Dem victory. Quite the opposite,
here's why:

The GOP did one very smart thing in '08: they kept their base together, while the Dem Blue Dogs (and corporate centrists who run Washington and the Administration in Power)have done everything possible to alienate the Progressive grassroots of the Democratic Party.

The result is, the Republicans will turn out their vote in November, while many of us are on strike or simply unable to stomach knocking doors on behalf of a Party that has wasted its chance.

The uncommitted, middle of the road types, and there are less of them than there used to be, won't show up on Election Day.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 08:45 AM
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3. Plus, they have election fraud as a back up...
They know they can steal elections.

The problem is (and this is why Rove is pissed), if you nominate over-the-top nutjobs--there's
a possibility that the wacko will be too far behind to pull off the fraud.

Rove wants under-the-radar fights. He doesn't want some psycho tea partier up against a centrist
Dem. The clear upset would make rigging nearly impossible.

Tea baggers were being used for their votes. Get them whipped up, full of Beckisms and they'd run
to the polls like cheetahs. I don't think the corporatist, neocon Republicans expected their movement
to spawn these outsider, wacko candidates.

They created a political Frankenstein.
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DemocraticPilgrim Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 08:54 AM
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4. The only poll that counts is election day, good point.
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