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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:06 AM Original message |
What would be bad "unintended consequences" for eliminating filibusters |
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CanonRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
1. +1000 |
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Indydem (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
2. The Future |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I'm talking specifically filibuster on cloture... would that have |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:33 AM Response to Reply #3 |
16. You cannot filibuster a cloture vote. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. How did they keep the Defense bill from coming onto the floor for discussion?. .n/t |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Cloture vote, which ends a filibuster, requires 60. |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 05:34 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Technically it is still in discussion. |
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global1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. So It's Better To Be Deadlocked And Not Have Any Progress Whatsoever?....... |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
21. You don't believe consequences are incurring as we type for having it? |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
24. Exactly, that is why the group of Repugs blocked doing away with it |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
4. John Bolton would have been UN ambassador for years |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
5. The filibuster comes in handy when an ideologically driven party |
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bluethruandthru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 01:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. +1000000000000 |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
7. People will get the govt they elect and deserve. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
8. It's all a bunch of excuses for the fact that the Senate isn't very democratic. |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
9. The Senate becomes another House of Representatives... |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:22 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. the political theory and purpose of the Senate: ELITE VETO |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:27 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. LIke the bill of rights, the Senate is supposed to protect the minority... |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:29 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Oh yes and it DOES. Madison's "minority of the opulent" have MUCH to thank the Senate for |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. And we were thankful for any check on mob power when Republicans were in control. |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:33 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. +1 |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
10. I would address your attention to the year 2005. |
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Gold Metal Flake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
12. We don't need to abandon the FB, just make them talk. |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Exactly - make them talk. |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. I've often seen this criticism, but I'm missed the "meat" of the argument, if you will. |
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Gold Metal Flake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Posted in my original reply. |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
18. I don't think you can filibuster on an invocation of cloture. |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I have no idea what you're talking about. |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-22-10 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
27. The one tool of minority input--delay--would be lost. |
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