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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 12:58 PM Original message |
This whole "Corn Sugar" bullshit is just so fucking lame |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. You are 100% right.. the corn syrup makers are framing the debate..using language to control |
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Romis (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 08:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
100. Free Online Video |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #100 |
106. Everything is a toxin |
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StClone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #106 |
110. All the links: HFCS = Sucrose |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
2. K&R |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
3. First it's 'corn sugar'; then it'll be just 'sugar'. |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. Makers of genetically modified foods doing the same thing. |
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nemo137 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #22 |
150. Except for the fact that GM foods have the potential to the very good things. |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #150 |
192. I say GM corn should only be used for ethanol. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
5. High fructose corn syrup sucks. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
126. Agreed. NO good comes out of it. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
6. cutting out all forms of sugar would be smarter |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Just yesterday, I was looking at a site with a bunch of before after shots of celebs |
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Roon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 02:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
28. I used to body build and now a bit about nutrition |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 04:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
45. I hate the idea of cutting fruits and veggies from my diet. They're the best carbs! nt |
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Roon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Fruits and veggies are a must! |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. So why do people talk about cutting carbs when that means cutting fruits and veggies? nt |
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Roon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I have no idea |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 06:46 PM Response to Reply #47 |
59. Because people never read past the first chapter of diet books |
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Moonbat2 (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:52 AM Response to Reply #47 |
92. Is is simple |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #47 |
105. Because Veggies are actually Low in Carbs |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #105 |
118. Non-starchy veggies are low in carbs... |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 05:51 PM Response to Reply #118 |
139. Well Clinton specified that he eats some fish |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 06:21 PM Response to Reply #139 |
140. Eating fish is good, but in opposition to the diet Esselstyn promotes |
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MsPithy (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:46 PM Response to Reply #47 |
117. Glycemic Index |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #47 |
163. Only for the first two weeks until you go into ketosis. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 08:04 PM Response to Reply #46 |
69. Meh. I tried the paleo thing. Still had the same issues. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. Actually, that would probably kill you. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 08:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
68. I'll keep you posted. It's been over a month and I'm still here. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #68 |
116. What diet contains no sugars at all? |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
78. If you are insulin resistant, carbs will kill you faster than Atkins. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
31. +1 |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 05:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
50. We need sugars. Not in excess, but SOME sugars. -nt |
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localroger (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:04 AM Response to Reply #50 |
101. Actually, there are no sugars you need |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #101 |
122. Want To Add My Comment. About 6 Months Ago I Got Turned Onto Fruit Smoothies... |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
7. Maybe if this PR stunt doesn't work |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Haaaa! Good thing I finished my coffee already. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
54. I think there is a magazine called that. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
8. I still miss Sugar Smacks. |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #8 |
107. And Sugar Corn Pops |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
10. HFCS is to sugar as heroin is to raw opium. |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Good analogy... |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Oh, that was their last argument: "in moderation". |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #20 |
108. "in moderation". |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 02:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
32. Actually, artificial sweeteners are harmless. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. I knew I'd find Mr. Sweet 'n Low here! nt |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 05:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. It's too bad for him that on this argument he's verifiably wrong. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 07:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
61. And yet millions of people consume aspartame safely every day. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 08:38 PM Response to Reply #61 |
74. I wouldnt touch the stuff. You go ahead. nm |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #74 |
134. Likewise, if you're really into pseudoscience, be my guest. |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #61 |
175. Never been a problem? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #175 |
191. well, you know, personal experience is just "anecdotal" so will be |
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Yeshuah Ben Joseph (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #49 |
184. Donald Rumsfeld's signature is on the paperwork for the Aspartame patent |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #44 |
123. But What About Truvia, It's Make From Dried Stevia Leaves. Isn't That A |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
51. Duly changed the nomenclature in your own parlance, I see. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #51 |
64. Do you call it cane sugar? |
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nolabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #32 |
115. Except for the cancer and migraines, and that EVIL taste. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #115 |
133. And the sapping of the precious bodily fluids. |
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mediaman007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
11. High Fructose Corn Syrup is to Corn Sugar as Coal is to Clean Coal |
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stuntcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
138. yah |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
12. The problem might be that corn syrup is cheap and in everything. |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. You nailed it. |
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Leftist Agitator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:28 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Karo syrup (light) is almost entirely glucose. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
36. That's a single, preliminary study that has been receiving a great deal of criticism. |
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Leftist Agitator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Criticism from who? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. From other researchers. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #39 |
127. Yes we've been down this road again. And I wasnt convinced by the torturous path |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. A couple of critiques. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
35. Yup. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
73. Tax payers subsidize corn sugar. That's why it's so cheap. And although Karo has been around along |
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rucognizant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 06:09 AM Response to Reply #73 |
94. RIght |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #94 |
125. My parents only used Karo for canning. Do you put any kind of sugar in chili or soup? nm |
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rucognizant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 06:05 AM Response to Reply #12 |
93. Yes BUT! |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #93 |
124. Yep. That was my point. Sweeteners in processed food. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 07:44 AM Response to Reply #12 |
158. HFCS just doesn't "happen" to be the cheapest sweetner. |
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Moondog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
13. K & R |
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Leftist Agitator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
18. Corn Refiner Assholes: "All sugar is the same, the body can't tell the difference.." |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
21. k&r |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
23. High Fructose Corn Syrup should not be tolerated anywhere. n/t |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
24. The key feature of fructose, metabolically, is that is does NOT tigger the release of... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 02:23 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. +1 |
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nenagh (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
99. That is exactly what I read as well.. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 12:26 AM Response to Reply #24 |
153. *sigh* |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
25. "King Corn" & "Super Size Me" |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
26. The Physics on the Towers |
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Skink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
27. I'm off Fructose. |
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Paulie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. No mead for you then |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. If the fermentation process is reasonably efficient, most of the sugars |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
66. I thought honey was mostly glucose. |
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localroger (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:06 AM Response to Reply #66 |
102. Honey is about the same mix as HFCS |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #29 |
109. Actually no |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 08:11 PM Response to Reply #27 |
71. My daughter was having health issues - g/i stuff. The doctor told her to keep a diary of everything |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
30. "I wasn't very good with chemistry" |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Eat it to your hearts content. |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 05:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
53. hey, you go for it, ok? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Are you going to pass on honey and fruit too? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 06:06 PM Response to Reply #30 |
57. I'm sure you'll still be able to find it, if you really want to eat it. |
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felix_numinous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
40. ... |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
42. HFCS is metabolized like fat, not sugar, and stored in fat cells. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #42 |
111. Nope |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:20 PM Response to Reply #111 |
144. Actually, you are incorrect! |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:55 PM Response to Reply #144 |
149. Science requires understanding the underlying system |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 12:04 AM Response to Reply #149 |
151. So, is the consumption of HFCS beneficial or not... |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 12:33 AM Response to Reply #151 |
154. Both |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #154 |
164. It's a bad thing to consume any kind of sugar excessively... |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #164 |
193. Yep (nt) |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
43. Yum. And HFCS is made with a genetically modified enzyme!!!! |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
52. every homebrewer knows, the term corn sugar is already taken (dextrose) |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
55. With you on this one, all the way |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
56. You should applaud the HFCS manufacturers for addressing the problem. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. like 'monosodium glutamate' became 'autolyzed yeast'. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 07:09 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. lol, wut? Where are you people getting this stuff? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Uh, isn't most MSG derived from red seaweed? |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
62. ...and now the fuckers are running pro HFCS tv ads ....argggg |
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Oldenuff (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
67. Just saw a video yesterday that: |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 11:49 PM Response to Reply #67 |
83. Thank you very much |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
70. And I saw the first commercial on the teevee saying it was the same... |
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City of Mills (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
72. Dude, sugar is sugar. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Maybe she's not a mom. Maybe she's just some kind of sicko who is molesting that kid. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
75. You know, just the other day |
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rucognizant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 06:20 AM Response to Reply #75 |
95. UH HUH! |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
76. I hate me some corn sugar. HATE. nt |
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the redcoat (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
79. The trick is in the wording: |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
80. love your righteous rant |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 11:47 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Just watched the vid |
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OswegoAtheist (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-25-10 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
81. It tastes different to me. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:31 AM Response to Reply #81 |
87. ...colors have tastes? |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:42 AM Response to Reply #81 |
90. lmao, are you tripping while on DU? |
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Raschel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
84. I'm sure you're aware that cancer cells use fructose to proliferate. |
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Bryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
85. From what I understand HFCS doesn't break down in your system |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #85 |
112. You understand incorrectly. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
86. You have proven why they should change the name, since there is no more Fructose |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:31 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Sweet! |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:40 AM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Not to syrupy? |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 06:22 AM Response to Reply #86 |
96. let them find some other name |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #96 |
130. Corn syrup sugar? |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. So, the "corn sugar" makers are "educating us"... |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 11:30 PM Response to Reply #131 |
148. It's not. That's the point. I don't know how to make it more clear. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:03 AM Response to Original message |
91. Um...why would they look the same? |
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rucognizant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 06:27 AM Response to Reply #91 |
97. It's elementary MY Dear Watson |
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intaglio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
98. Sugar is complicated |
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relayerbob (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
103. Use stevia |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #103 |
113. Stevia tastes like licorice-flavored ass. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
104. I lost fifteen years of the productive time of my life trying to figure this out for myself. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
114. It's quite apparent you weren't that good at chemistry |
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intaglio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 05:16 PM Response to Reply #114 |
137. Neither are you good at chemistry, regarding enantiomers |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 12:19 AM Response to Reply #137 |
152. *sigh* |
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intaglio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 05:54 AM Response to Reply #152 |
156. Very sigh |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-28-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #156 |
208. Once again, you're wrong. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
119. Thanks for posting the truth! |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #119 |
172. You forgot to capitalize "Truth." nt |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
120. "Doesn't look like the stuff that I sprinkle on my shredded wheat to me." |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #120 |
132. Actually, I sprinkle raisins and a little bit of honey on my shredded wheat |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #132 |
135. Except now you've got the problem... |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #135 |
136. Well, at least the honey producers never tried to lie to us, like the corn refiners are |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #136 |
142. So are you saying that honey producers... |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #142 |
143. Nope... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #143 |
145. Actually, I'm fine with both honey and corn sugar. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 07:33 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. I guess that you don't worry about increased levels of diabetes and obesity in the population either |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #146 |
162. Not really. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #162 |
165. So, you concede that it's a bad thing to consume any kind of sugar excessively |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #165 |
168. Duh. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #168 |
170. And it's a fact that HFCS is the most popular sweetener in America |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #170 |
171. And if it were cane sugar, it wouldn't make a bit of difference. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #171 |
173. But you do concede that consumption of over sixty pounds a year |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 10:58 AM Response to Reply #173 |
174. Consumption of too much sugar is a bad thing, yes. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #174 |
176. Exactly, we shouldn't be consuming so much HFCS as we are. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #176 |
177. If you are really concerned about the overconsumption of sugar... |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #177 |
178. Well, I do object to it, no doubt about that... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #178 |
179. "I object to the campaign of anti-science I'm seeing here on DU." |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 11:46 AM Response to Reply #179 |
180. What "anti-science" am I posting? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #180 |
181. Well, there's your whole OP. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #181 |
182. Where is the evidence that that isn't true? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #182 |
183. Are you kidding me? You just make this shit up. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #183 |
185. I'm saying that I'm deferring to the experts |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #185 |
186. You're not deferring to any experts. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #186 |
188. So, you're saying... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #188 |
189. I'm saying that's a crutch you fell back on when you couldn't defend your anti-science crap. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #189 |
190. What's the difference between what I said in my OP and what I'm saying now? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 08:57 AM Response to Reply #142 |
161. I imagine if honey gets re-branded by Madison Avenue... |
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Yeshuah Ben Joseph (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #161 |
187. But what would they call it? |
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bliss_eternal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
121. Just saw one of the ads... |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
128. Clarifications: |
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stuntcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 06:31 PM Response to Reply #128 |
141. kickety |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 10:05 PM Response to Reply #141 |
147. "It's sad but the cheaper it is, the worse it is for you.. it should be the opposite way around." |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 01:07 AM Response to Reply #128 |
155. The problem with videos on the Internet |
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intaglio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 06:49 AM Response to Reply #155 |
157. Oh dear, Jeff, It seems you are a bigger apologist than I thought |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 08:50 AM Response to Reply #157 |
159. What cherry picking? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #155 |
167. "The "controversy" over HFCS is an attempt to escape blame for our poor eating habits." |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 01:22 PM Response to Reply #155 |
195. any quack or otherwise just plain arrogant jerk can post stuff like the following, too: |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #195 |
197. Which part of that do you disagree with? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #197 |
198. the bullshit about a 12-pack of coke a day.... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #198 |
199. So you don't think consuming too much sugar causes obesity? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #199 |
200. so, you're assuming that everyone who is overweight eats as indicated |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #200 |
201. Just about everyone. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 03:35 PM Response to Reply #201 |
202. so you are saying that everyone who is overweight drinks a 12 pack of soda a day |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 03:37 PM Response to Reply #202 |
203. 12 pack of soda, box of ding dongs, a cheesecake... |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #203 |
204. there's more of those ignorant assumptions.... |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #204 |
207. "i was speaking figuratively, i guess that's too difficult for you to figure out" |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 05:02 PM Response to Reply #195 |
206. And the problem is....? |
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man4allcats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-26-10 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
129. Sugar, shmooger ... |
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EnviroBat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
160. HFCS Is metabolised in the liver just like booze is. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #160 |
166. Bingo! nt |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #160 |
169. It's oxidized to acetaldehyde and then acetic acid? |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #160 |
194. Except it isn't. |
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EnviroBat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #194 |
196. Read the section regarding non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-27-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #196 |
205. Provide a link from somewhere that doesn't back holistic medicine, and it'll be worth my time. (NT) |
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