Is it illegal to claim to be an FBI agent? How can I find out if someone is actually an agent or

just a freaking liar?

Estate lawyer told my lawyer BIL is FBI, last I knew he was just a macho, creepy border patrol agent.

Thanks for any info! :hi:

an agent ... call either DC or your local field office ..... it is a felony to impersonate a federal law enforcement officer ...

I'd guess that it's illegal

If I were you, I'd make a call to my local FBI office to check to see if it is illegal

and when they ask why, tell them about your BIL

That said...you didn't hear the claim being made...all you have is someone said that someone else's BIL is FBI.

That's gossip.

Now, if you have been told that said person is claiming to be FBI and acting ("I'm FBI and you better obey me" kind of stuff) in that capacity, then call the FBI and let them know....but the names of people so harassed by a wannabe is helpful.

ammo to fight his and my sister's continued robbery of Mom's estate. Over $100,000 taken from safe while Mom was dying last year, then they bought a $320,000 house exactly two months after Mom's death.

They've attacked me continuously since Mom died after sister bullied her into changing her to sole executor 5 weeks before she died.

Thanks Solly, good advice. :hug:

The estate robbery, that is. I'm so sorry you're going through that. I wish you all the best!

Do you think the claim has been made in regards to your mother's estate? (to get something done, for example...implied threat.."Well, my brother the FBI agent"..kind of thing)

Because then we're talking fraud as well.

Course, there could be fraud anyway. Maybe something a forensic accountant could be helpful with?

:hug:

I have to wait until she finally files the tax return. There's no inventory filed, nothing done, except an extension since July 2009. I have a small fortune in med bills waiting, due to no insurance and chronic med problems, and sister is stalling hoping I lose my home to taxes and med bills. Nice lady, huh?

I'm basically in limbo until I have the inventory and tax return to see what loopholes she has found to screw me over.

My bil was going through Mom's papers right after the funeral, he was not an executor. I was co-executor until a few weeks before Mom's death. BIL is macho and controlling, wanted to be DEA when he grew up, which makes him hate my guts and believe I must lie and steal since I'm a "dirty liberal hippy".

The estate lawyer is "just so impressed by the sister's 'integrity' and 'fairness' with such a horrible sister as me to deal with". Not a great judge of character for a lawyer.

It's been a nightmare since Dad died in 20004. The girls tried to have Mom declared incompetent in 2004/5 to try to grab his estate from Mom. They bullied the poor woman about the estate until five weeks before her extremely painful and imminent death. When Mom was gone there was no one left to hold them back in their greed any longer...

I will never understand such jealousy, greed and viciousness. They value others based only on their monetary value and belongings; including themselves. Sadly, four of my five 1/2-sisters are palin-pukes. "Those idiots knew that a hurricane was coming. They got what they deserved if they weren't smart enough to leave." That's what I was forced to deal with for years, until Mom died.

Thanks for the good wishes, Solly! :hi: Hopefully this nightmare will end before I have to move to my car. :rofl:

If I went to a bar, party, gathering, etc and if someone asked what I did for a living and told them I was an FBI agent, police officer, CIA agent, etc,
there's nothing illegal about that.

If I took it one step further and told a person I need to see their identification, search them, search their vehicle, collecting donations for some police charity/organization, etc, then that would be illegal.

Flashing a badge and/or wearing a uniform would also be considered illegal.

one of the Rochester border agents harassing people a hundred miles away from any border. He started in Texas, then Minnesota/North Dakota then NY. I've often wondered why so many transfers in a fairly short period of time.

I believe he told the attorney that to impress him with how "honest and law-abiding" they are with a crazed hippy sister to "deal" with.

He probably hasn't told others he is FBI, unless he is actually is now. I'm just so tired of repukes lies and manipulations used to hurt anyone they don't like...

Thanks for reply! :hi:

If the FBI investigated every shitsack that claimed to be an FBI agent, they would be doing little else.

Thanks for the reality check, Major! :hi:

Then he probably isn't.

It is scary knowing he, and others that think like him, are "guarding" our borders and have any control over others.

Thanks for taking time to reply, Thom! :hi:

Whereas wearing a t-shirt that says "Official ***** inspector" is just bad taste.

PB

I am trying to investigate further. I can't believe all the agents live in $300,000 to $400,000 homes. I could be wrong though, what with the * "ownership" society of the last ten years.

He's also into gangster rap, :puke: Scary guy...

is attempting to act AS an FBI agent.

Do you have information that would prove otherwise?

That would make merely claiming to be an FBI agent a felony?

See here:


So anything: FBI agent, Federal Fish and Game Warden, Federal Park Ranger, Federal Meat Inspector....ANYTHING. While you see this sort of thing in movies, it's actually a terribly serious crime and one which a person is certain to be prosecuted for.

PB

Anybody can SAY he's a "federal agent" but unless he attempts to act within the parameters of an actual agent, he's not committing a crime.

It's the intent...the actions before, during, or after the claim...that will get someone in trouble.

Not the mere statement that one is in the FBI.

PB

Because the law doesn't say

"It is illegal for anyone to claim to be a government agent", period.


There are stipulations as to what constitutes the felony. Like attempting to act within the parameters of a government agent.


That is the fine point that makes it a felony.

It would seem to me that merely saying one is an FBI agent wouldn't be illegal unless it happened in conjunction with some other action...i.e trying to act in the capacity of an FBI agent.


Given the numbers of crazy people out there, how many others are running around claiming they're FBI or CIA or even Napoleon himself? There probably wouldn't be enough prisons to hold them all if it were illegal. Plus I've never heard of anyone being prosecuted just for claiming he was a cop or CIA or FBI...


One other thing...I doubt very many authentic FBI agents really ARE running around saying they're FBI, you know?

One of my relatives and her husband, who is currently in training to be a US Marshall, have been warned NOT to associate him in any way with the program. Probably because it could be very dangerous, both to themselves and their families, if the information ever became public.

So I'm thinking your BIL is suffering from a case of "wannabee" and is more than likely a bit of a nutcase as well.

Maybe I'm having a mild stroke, but I could quite make out what you're saying.

It's illegal to personally claim that you're an FBI agent, I don't think it's illegal to claim your BIL is an FBI agent is some phony bragging attempt.

from what I understand, the FBI takes such things EXTREMELY seriously

PB

has this person attempted to use the claim of being "with the FBI" to gain access to money or information or anything else...


If the answer to that question is "No", then I'd also be willing to bet that the next sentence is, "Thank you very much...goodbye".


Third thing I'd be willing to bet on would be what would happen if someone falsely claimed that another person who is merely SAYING he's with the FBI (and not using that as a reason to defraud another person) really is defrauding people. In other words, if someone is only running around saying he's a federal agent and someone reports him for defrauding, or trying to defraud, other people, he damned well better be telling the truth.

Really. I've had contact with them before and all you do is call the closest office. They pick up quick and help you out immediately. I've never had anyone but an agent actually pick up the phone (they don't have a secretary as such) and they could clear an issue like yours up very quickly.

PB

tell me...when was the last time you reported a crazy person for claiming to be an FBI agent?

Was said crazy person ever contacted by the MIB? Arrested? Prosecuted and convicted of felony?

For merely claiming to be an FBI agent?


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