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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 10:40 AM
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Eight more US soldiers killed; Gunmen dressed as Iraqi soldiers kill 15 (Kurds)

Eight more US soldiers killed in Iraq

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BAGHDAD (AFP) - Eight more American troops were killed In Iraq, seven of them on a single day, the US military said Saturday, amid raging violence and a desperate search for three captured soldiers.

Three US soldiers were killed Friday when their vehicle was bit by a bomb northeast of Baghdad, and two more in an ambush inside the city in which a gunmen opened fire on a patrol already hit by a roadside booby-trap

Another soldier died in combat in western Iraq, one was shot dead while on foot patrol in Baghdad and the eighth was killed on Saturday by a roadside bomb south of the capital that wounded two US and two Iraqi troops.

The deaths brought total US casualties since the March 2003 invasion to 3,412 and the total deaths in May to 69, keeping it on course to be one of the bloodiest months of the war for American forces so far.

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Gunmen dressed as Iraqi soldiers kill 15

By ROBERT H. REID, Associated Press Writer 24 minutes ago

BAGHDAD - Gunmen wearing Iraqi army uniforms shot and killed 15 men Saturday in a Kurdish Shiite village northeast of Baghdad and a U.S. soldier was killed and another seriously wounded while searching for three comrades missing for a week after an ambush.

In Baghdad, at least three mortar shells or rockets slammed into the Green Zone after British Prime Minister Tony Blair had arrived for talks with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and other Iraqi leaders. One person was injured, but it was unclear how far Blair was from the blasts.

The attack against the villagers occurred early Saturday when gunmen wearing army uniforms entered the village of Hamid Shifi, about 60 miles northeast of Baghdad. They rousted families from their homes and opened fire on the men, killing 15 of them, an Iraqi general and a Kurdish political party said.

The victims were Kurdish Shiites, according to a statement posted on the Web site of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan.

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Kurds massacred as Blair visits Iraq

by Dave Clark 1 hour, 3 minutes ago

BAGHDAD (AFP) - British Prime Minister Tony Blair defended his decision to back the invasion of Iraq on Saturday as his last visit to the war-torn country was marred by the massacre of 16 Kurdish villagers.

Blair's arrival in Baghdad's heavily fortified Green Zone was heralded by a salvo of mortars, which wounded one person, in the latest in a spate of bloody attacks on the seat of US, British and Iraqi government power.

Standing alongside Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and President Jalal Talabani, a defiant Blair insisted that there are signs of political progress towards a peaceful settlement of the four-year-old conflict.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 10:43 AM
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1. Freedom from life is surging
Fuck Bush!
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 10:55 AM
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2. The Iraqi insurgency has proven highly adaptable.
They have been as adaptable as the Vietnamese were, despite lacking a unified political-organizational command. Several commands are operating in rough unity. I'm sure militaries over the world are closely studying the conflict to learn the appropriate lessons, particularly countries like China, N. Korea, and Iran, which are targeted for "regime change."
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 11:02 AM
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3. One, two, three - what are we fighting for?
I recall that old song from the sixties by Country Joe & the Fish:

And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 11:10 AM
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5. Dressing in enemy uniforms, infiltrating enemy ranks, espionage and
double and triple agents, ambushes and inside jobs.

What war does that remind you of? This all has the eerie echo of Viet Nam for me.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 11:05 AM
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4. Thank gawd we're not emboldening the "enemy" by having a timeline for withdrawal.
:sarcasm:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:24 PM
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10. I know, right?
Cuz the Commander Guy has the plan to have the Enterprise beam all Americans and their equipment back to the US as soon as the mission is accomplished! So there's no warning for the insurgents!!!

:sarcasm:
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 11:20 AM
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6. surge = bloodiest month ever. just like noone could have predicted.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 11:33 AM
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7. Although it doesn't matter............
because the dead are still dead.......but how is it known that the "shooters" were dressed as Iraqi soldiers.....why couldn't they just BE Iraqi soldiers? Every time I hear this obfuscation, I cringe.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:19 PM
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9. Because they're describing.
Iraqi soldiers dress like Iraqi soldiers; so if the shooters were Iraqi soldiers, the statement's true.

Non-Iraqis and non-soldiers can also dress like Iraqi soldiers; so if the shooters weren't Iraqi (doubtful) or weren't soldiers (plausible), the statement's true.

I don't see a plausible contrast between "shooters dressed as Iraqi soldiers" and "shooters that were Iraqi soldiers" in this context.

Grice rules.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 11:47 AM
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8. in the 47 months of this occupation
there have been 21 months in which the total for the entire month exceeded this months current total of 67 through 18 days. Nine of those are the last nine consecutive months.

The attacks are becoming both bolder and more successful - because we have spread our troops out in "forward operating bases" where they have much less protection, and then send them out in small groups to drive around hoping not to be targets.

This is "emboldening the enemy."

They are not "emboldened" because of anything Jack Murtha or Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid say... they are emboldened because we are handing them easy targets.

Bush had to shop around last fall to find a general who would agree to do this - much as he had to shop around for a legal adviser to tell him it was ok to throw out the Constitution.

Like any addict, he seeks and finds "enablers" to help him feed his habit. We as a nation are complicit in this.

someone tell me again - I keep forgetting - why we are supposed to "give it until September to see if it is working"

???

Our Congress AND our military leaders are sworn to uphold the Constitution. Time's up. They are rapidly becoming, if not already, co-conspirators.

This is the message we all need to send to all three of our congresscritters. Tell them they are failing in their sworn duty and are co-conspirators in a criminal enterprise.



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