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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:08 PM
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Bush White House fires back at Jimmy Carter (calls Carter "increasingly irrelevant")
So why did they respond at all if he is so irrelevant?


Bush White House fires back at Jimmy Carter
10 minutes ago


CRAWFORD, Texas (Reuters) - The White House on Sunday fired back at former President Jimmy Carter, calling him "increasingly irrelevant" a day after Carter described George W. Bush's presidency as the worst in history in international relations.

Carter, a Democrat, said on Saturday in an interview with the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette that "as far as the adverse impact on the nation around the world, this administration has been the worst in history."

White House spokesman Tony Fratto had declined to react on Saturday but on Sunday fired back.

"I think it's sad that President Carter's reckless personal criticism is out there," Fratto told reporters. "I think it's unfortunate. And I think he is proving to be increasingly irrelevant with these kinds of comments."


more...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070520/pl_nm/bush_carter_dc_1

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:09 PM
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1. LOL! Go, Jimmy!
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:12 PM
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2. Those darn irrelevant Nobel winners.
When the Shrub wins one, he can throw out the "irrelevant" word. Until then . . .


BWA-HA-HA-HA!
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 04:25 PM
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34. But...but...George won a frat house drinking contest!
Surely that's gotta count for something!

:shrug:

.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:13 PM
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Jimmy could still run, but I think he'd make a better Sec. of State. n/t
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:15 PM
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5. I'd give that to Clinton. Carter could be either UN rep or World Bank pres.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:13 PM
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3. The Bushies call Carter increasingly irrelevant?
Now, that's rich.

Aren't these the same guys who charged Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson are on a political vendetta againt the White House earlier in the week?

That's rich, too.
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:19 PM
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16. I hadn't heard that one.
Aren't these the same guys who charged Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson are on a political vendetta againt the White House earlier in the week?

:rofl:

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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:15 PM
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4. And Carter is stating that George is relevant to the disaster
that is gripping us world wide, and, at home with the laws he has dismissed as irrelevant.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:16 PM
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6. The least respected President ever says one of the most respected is "irrelevant"?
It's Georgie looking in the mirror again.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 05:16 PM
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45. It is WHish!!-think they can make a statement and people will believe it is
true just cause they say so!!
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:16 PM
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7. Oh, really?
Was Jimmy Carter right?
by Stephen Koff

Carter met the problems by starting sweeping oil-reduction reforms, including creation of the Cabinet-level Department of Energy.

He began spending millions of dollars researching alternative sources for electrical power, including solar power. He got utilities to cut their use of oil for electricity and ramp up their use of natural gas or coal.

"Up until Carter, we were getting about 20 percent of our electricity from oil generation," said Jay Hakes, director of the Energy Information Administration under Carter and an authority on modern presidents and oil. "And post-Carter, it went down to about 3 percent."

Carter insisted that U.S. automakers build more fuel-efficient cars, with a goal of 27.5 miles per gallon over the following decade - a requirement passed under Gerald Ford but put into force by Carter.

He offered incentives for getting oil from shale, creating a boom initially in the Rockies - and a bust when it failed to be cost-effective. He offered deductions for using solar water heaters in homes and commercial buildings.

"People in the upper-income bracket were always looking for tax cuts. They were going to build a house anyhow, so they were saying, 'Well let's look at this solar stuff and see what we can do,' " said Marc Giaccardo, a professor at the University of Texas at San Antonio who at the time was an Albuquerque architect.

Carter even had solar collectors installed on the White House grounds to heat the executive residence's water.



http://www.energybulletin.net/9657.html


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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:18 PM
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12. Thanks!~
Good to know!
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:19 PM
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17. Oh thank you, that is a good one.
Carter was a prophet on that one. Too bad everyone chose to blow him off.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 05:18 PM
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47. The US would be so far ahead had we heeded this polices instead of letting
them become irrelevant!!
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:16 PM
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8. lol
The white house sounds really stupid and desperate to say
something as obviously wrong as that.

Jimmy Carter will always be relevant in a society anywhere
anytime, and especially relevant in one that has lost its sense
as this one has.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:17 PM
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9. I call BULLSHIT on the
fucking whitehouse that is destroying our country and the planet in the process.

bushtard couldn't hold a candle to a real president. bush will always be the little man who had to steal two fucking elections to get his scarred ass in the whitehouse aka the chimphouse.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:17 PM
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10. Increasingly pain in the ass which is good n/t
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:17 PM
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11. Just goes to show how relevant he is. n/t
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:19 PM
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13. A weak and fallacious argument against the elder statesman ...
Even IF Carter were 'increasingly irrelevant', that would have no bearing whatsoever on his statements .... They were honest, they were true, and they defined the current administration accurately ...

Furthermore: Carter doesn't have 'decreasing relevance' - He is just as relevant or irrelevant as he was last year or the one before ....

I am not shocked that they didn't try to dismantle his argument ... it's always about killing the messenger with them ....
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:19 PM
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14. Mister Fratto,
would it be too much trouble to remind us all of all the bushco international relations accomplishments while you're at it. Besides all the progress in Iraq. Just curious.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:19 PM
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15. LOL, isn't everyone who opposes Bushco "irrelevant"
Aren't the courts and congress also "irrelevant?" Aren't the people also "irrelevant?"

:nopity:
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:20 PM
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19. Exactly n/t
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 04:02 PM
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27. you forgot the number of dead troops...
they're irrelevent also, aren't they? Why worry their beautiful minds? :puke:
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 04:12 PM
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30. Don't forget Old Europe!
They're irrelevant too!
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 04:47 PM
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38. It's the "who-cares-what-they-think?" syndrome "at work" again...
couple that with their psychological projection syndrome...

(to these sickos, even Sigmund Freud was irrelevant!)
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:20 PM
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18. First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win
:)
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:22 PM
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20. Heh...methinks Jimmy touched a nerve.
I love the,"We're so not interested in responding response".It's like someone taking the last word to claim they never take the last word.
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 05:34 PM
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51. Exactly.
If Carter is "increasingly irrelevant," then why the need for the Bushites to respond to his criticism, hmm? :shrug:
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:22 PM
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21. they always attack those with expertise and intellect
Edited on Sun May-20-07 03:23 PM by MissWaverly
look at their so called experts: Michael Brown, Monica Goodling, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, they have made enormous blunders,
they should keep the term "increasingly irrelevant" - they may need to use it for their own resumes.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:23 PM
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22. they forgot that even the evangelicals like Carter's work with Habitat for Humanity.
They didn't like his politics, but they could never fault his committment to his faith.

Bushco is really stepping in it with this one.
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:23 PM
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23. Big talk coming from an administration whose clueless leader
is currently seeing his worst approval ratings ever.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:23 PM
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24. The corporate media DID do-in Carter
On behalf of the Reagan "deals-with-terrorists" political power grab. That's how this whole betrayal of democracy started.
Carter didn't forget to put pre-filters on the helicopters that went down. Not did he make backdoor deals with terrorists like the Republican criminals did.

We need to call it a REPUBLICAN problem here in America. Not a BUSH problem. Bush is irrelevant in fact, so target the REAL problem -REPUBLICANS.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 07:36 PM
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55. Oliver North had something to do with that failed
helicopter mission. Hmmmmmmm.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:24 PM
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25. Carter is irrelevant only to those who live outside the reality-based community.
I keep hoping that will be Bush's ultimate undoing.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:47 PM
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26. What a lame response. They must be distracted by all their sky falling around them.

Name-calling looks and is weak. Bushco's command and control is getting torn up by the Dem congress and it has them rattled.

:evilgrin:



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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 04:06 PM
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28. Direct hit by Carter
Landed that blow well
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 04:12 PM
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29. whether he is relevant is irrevelant!!!
bush sucks bigtime.....doesn't take a nobel laureate to figure that out!!
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 04:13 PM
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31. Oh Snap!
:eyes:
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 04:22 PM
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32. Stump is so illiterate that he doesn't even know he's irrelevant.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 04:23 PM
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33. Today, Mr. Bush condemned Jimmy Carter into irrelevance.....
So Bush, in his petulance, is annoyed that former President Jimmy Carter is fighting mad about Bush's premeditated actions against our country and the world....


May 20, 2007

CRAWFORD, Texas (Reuters) - The White House on Sunday fired back at former President Jimmy Carter, calling him "increasingly irrelevant" a day after Carter described George W. Bush's presidency as the worst in history in international relations.

Carter, a Democrat, said on Saturday in an interview with the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette that "as far as the adverse impact on the nation around the world, this administration has been the worst in history."

White House spokesman Tony Fratto had declined to react on Saturday but on Sunday fired back.

"I think it's sad that President Carter's reckless personal criticism is out there," Fratto told reporters. "I think it's unfortunate. And I think he is proving to be increasingly irrelevant with these kinds of comments."




Well, it looks like Mr. Bush has been trying with all of his might to stay relevant. And like everything else this man touches, it is a miserable failure.



The President's Mission: Stay Relevant, TIME, Sunday, Mar. 12, 2006




Pitching In: Bush last week helps restore a Gautier, Miss., house destroyed by Katrina.
BROOKS KRAFT / CORBIS FOR TIME



.....

Just 16 months after the President's re-election, his Capitol Hill allies are in a funk, pointing fingers and worrying about their survival in November's midterm elections. Even Bush loyalists fear the Commander in Chief is in a hole with no ladder. When the Dubai company that the Administration had okayed to run several U.S. ports pulled out of the widely derided deal last week, the President escaped from a fight with a Republican-controlled Congress that had the public overwhelmingly on its side. In the long run, though, the company's withdrawal may turn out to mark the moment Bush became a lame duck. "The ports deal showed that the Congress is completely going its own way," said a presidential adviser. White House officials contend that Bush quickly realized the ports affair was a fiasco. "I know a prairie fire when I see one," the Texas rancher told an aide.

.....

In an acknowledgment that he needs to offer a more convincing message on Iraq, the President is scheduled to deliver a series of three speeches this month that aim at persuasion, a departure from his usual hallmark of repetition. Bush plans to describe U.S. efforts to develop new defenses against insurgents' improvised explosive devices and give town-by-town case studies of how his strategy for victory in Iraq is playing out. "It's not going to change people's anxieties," a White House official said. "What it will do is help provide a greater understanding of why these events are happening and what we're doing to try to change them. We talk about the strategy oftentimes from 30,000 feet. What we're trying to do here is say how it is actually being applied on the ground."

.....





Yeah, like you did after Katrina struck?










....continued from TIME:




....

Through the challenges, the President has kept his human touch. Touring New Orleans last week, he met a man who had survived for days on canned goods before being evacuated to Utah. "Were you the only black man in Salt Lake City?" Bush asked.

.....

"The Bushies have proved that five people can run the country for four years and one day," a G.O.P. congressional aide complained. The critics are conducting their conversations with the President's men in polite code, such as asking how they can help. "There is a drumbeat," a Bush friend explained, "but it's not resonant in the White House. These are people this Administration, and the President in particular, disdains. You scrape 'em off your shoes--and keep going."




Who are you, Mr. Bush, to point the finger at someone who speaks the truth?



(bold type added, with vehemence)
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 05:04 PM
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41. Is that a nail the war criminal chimp's got in his lying pie hole? (Oh how I wish:)


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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 04:28 PM
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35. I hope the population of the US listen carefully
to the WH views on a respected former President. These people are fugging fascists.

Love you Jimmy Carter.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 04:29 PM
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36. Silly Jimmy
He goes around building houses while * goes around blowing them up.
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 04:48 PM
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39. They put him down for being a human being
Because they don't have a human bone in their bodies.... damn reptilians!! hahaha
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 04:46 PM
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37. Time to fight back DUers
So the WH said Carter was becoming 'increasingly irrelevant'. Well George who is relevant - a useless, narcissistic, arrogant, self righteous psycopathic, war criminal like you or a decent human being like Jimmy Carter. So what the fuck have you done but destroy this planet. Here's just a few of Jimmy Carter's achievements. He will always be more relevant than you.

The 'Crisis of Confidence' Speech from July 15, 1979
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter/filmmore/ps_crisis.html

Habitat for Humanity the one Bush didn't know was located in Americus, Georgia.
http://www.habitat.org/how/carter.aspx

The Carter Center which provides election observers across the globe
http://www.cartercenter.org/homepage.html

Tell George Bush to fugg off. He has never been, is not and will never be as relevant as Jimmy Carter. I can't wait for Habitat beneficiaries to respond to Bush.

This will backfire big time. Fugg you George Bush!! A big Fuck You!!
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 04:56 PM
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40. Sounds like the "work" of Frank Luntz
Repuke message framer.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 05:07 PM
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42. what a joke coming from the little man!
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 05:12 PM
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43. I think it's unfortunate that a public official feels comfortable denigrating
Edited on Sun May-20-07 05:15 PM by Marr
a citizen- and former President- to the news media in this way.

That is an inappropriate response, and were this man representing any administration but this one, I've no doubt his comment would be recognized as such. But people have low expectations of the Bush Administration. We're not surprised when they make uncouth, unprofessional comments, or when they make a wreck of the simplest operation, or when they abuse every power available because, as Mr. Carter pointed out... 'they are the worst'.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 05:14 PM
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44. ill-advised policies of Bush in Iraq have been a major tragedy for the world," Carter said.






In a separate BBC interview, Carter also denounced the close relationship between Bush and British Prime Minister
Tony Blair.

"Abominable. Loyal, blind, apparently subservient," Carter said when asked how he would characterize Blair's relationship with Bush.

"I think that the almost undeviating support by Great Britain for the ill-advised policies of
President Bush in Iraq have been a major tragedy for the world," Carter said.

Carter, who was president from 1977-1981 and won the 2002 Nobel Peace Prize for his charitable work, was an outspoken opponent of the invasion of Iraq before it was launched in 2003.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 05:17 PM
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46. Bush is becoming increasingly irrelevant.
1/20/09 cant get here soon enough.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 05:19 PM
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48. Mr. 28%?
Huh. :rofl:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 05:28 PM
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49. That's right. Insult Jimmy Carter, you freaks
That'll win you some political points, right?

Bzzzzzt! NO, I'm sorry, that's not the answer.

Thanks for playing! And please accept this lovely parting gift....

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MurrayDelph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 05:29 PM
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50. In a way, they're right
Jimmy Carter is a force for Peace.

Peace is increasingly irrelevant to this administration.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 05:39 PM
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52. Yup! "Money Trumps Peace" is their only agenda. n/t
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 07:11 PM
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53. And who has the Nobel Peace Prize? Not Dubya!
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 07:16 PM
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54. The AWOL Boy King calls the Nobel Peace Prize recipient irrelevant....
Yeah, like anyone is going to buy that one you asshat.

All Hail Jimmy!
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 08:32 PM
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56. If he's irrelevant, then why the need to
comment? Dumbasses.
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