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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:16 PM
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Do you agree with this Senator's press release on H-1b visas?
U.S. Sen. X: To make qualified American workers a priority
9/28/2010

For Immediate Release
Tuesday, September 28, 2010

WASHINGTON – Senator X is pressing for consideration of two key amendments to ensure American workers are filling job vacancies in the United States when companies seek to use temporary visa programs to fill those jobs. The amendments were filed to the so-called offshoring bill that is currently being debated in the Senate.

“If this debate is truly about protecting American jobs, these common-sense amendments will go a long way to preventing work from being shipped overseas and ensuring that qualified American workers are first in line for the job openings. Instead of blocking these amendments, the Majority Leader should bring them up for a vote,” X said. “In tough economic times like we’re seeing, it’s even more important that we do everything possible to see that Americans are given every consideration when applying for jobs.

“If there aren’t qualified Americans, then companies can legitimately use the visa system. But, today, too many Americans remain unemployed, and we still allow companies to import thousands of foreign workers with little or no strings attached. It doesn’t seem unreasonable to ask businesses to first determine if there are qualified Americans to fill the vacant positions, and be held accountable for displacing Americans to hire cheaper, foreign labor,” X added.

One of the X amendments mirrors legislation X coauthored with Senator Z. The amendment would prevent any company engaged in a mass lay-off of American workers from importing cheaper labor from abroad through temporary guest worker programs. Companies truly facing labor shortages could continue to obtain employer sponsored visas.

The other amendment is similar to legislation he and Senator Y have introduced that would root out fraud and abuse of the H-1B and L Visa programs while making sure Americans have the first chance at high-skilled jobs in the United States. The H-1B visa has been labeled the “outsourcing visa” by India’s former Commerce and Industry Minister.

X said the H-1B program is well-known for encouraging companies to take their work offshore. The New York Times reported in 2007 that the H-1B Visa is “a critical tool for Indian outsourcing vendors to gain expertise and win contracts from western companies to transfer critical operations like Bangalore. As Indian outsourcing companies have become the leading consumers of the visa, they have used it to further their primary mission, which is to gain the expertise necessary to take on critical tasks performed by Western companies, and perform them in India at a fraction of the costs.”

The H-1B and L Visa amendment would require employers to try and recruit U.S. workers before hiring H-1B visa holders; require employers to pay a better wage to visa holders who take these jobs; expand the powers of the federal government to go after abusers; create new rules regarding the outsourcing and outplacement of H-1B and L-1 workers by their employers to secondary employers in the United States; and establish a new database that employers can use to advertise positions for which they intend to hire an H-1B worker.
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Travis_0004 Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:20 PM
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1. I agree with it
Why bring in foreign workers if there are Americans willing and able to do the job. If we were at 4% unemployment, and companies could not fill positions that would be one thing, but I think with unemployment where its at, we should issue as few H-1B visas as possible.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:22 PM
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2. Yes, its needed
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:26 PM
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3. OK, I'll spoil the fun
It's a press release from Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa):
http://www.iowapolitics.com/index.Iml?Article=212276
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 09:12 AM
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16. every once in awhile
he is a surprise.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:30 PM
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4. why not just reduce the number of visas?
that would force companies to do all those things.
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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 10:14 AM
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17. that would be better yet, but you have to start somewhere
and telling the truth about this rotten program is a breath of fresh air
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:34 PM
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5. "expand the powers of the federal government "
What possible 'powers' do they not already have in this?
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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:43 PM
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6. It just goes to show that a senator is capable of 'getting it'
that press release pretty much cuts through all the bull on this issue and lays the truth of what's really going on bare

why cant more of them?
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:43 PM
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7. They need to be made to pay the same wages to the foreigner
as they would to a local person, plus pay their way over and have to fork out for their lodging and meals. This would ensure that they hire local people first if at all possible. As it stands now, they get the foreign worker cheaper and of course that's all they care about.
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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:46 PM
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8. even that doesnt solve the problem, more supply, lower 'prevailing wage'
American tech workers have lived under what even Milton Friedman called a 'subsidy' from the middle class to corporations

It's just like a farm price support program for tech workers

except, it's the exact opposite
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:01 PM
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10. They should, but the workers are so happy to be here, they say nothing
By the time the worker figures out they are being screwed, the company got what they needed from them and dumps them. This happened to several Phillipino workers at my last company. Multi-national companies are heartless monsters.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:11 PM
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11. Reminds me of how Sweden handles this sort of thing. A Polish company won a road construction bid.
The Swedish government told them you can bring in as many Polish workers as you want (EU rules) but you have to pay them Swedish wages not Polish wages. As a result the company hired Swedes almost exclusively. If you have to pay the prevailing wage, you're going to hire locals rather than import workers.
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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:56 PM
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9. doesnt this seem like a pretty common sense way to get people jobs? nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:15 PM
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12. Why exactly are you pushing Grassley's BS?
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 10:16 PM by ProSense
Grassley is doing what Republicans always do, introduce mirror bills that push their corporate tax agenda and strip out the oversight and other measures to reduce fraud.



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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:24 PM
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13. +1 (nt)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:41 PM
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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 10:16 AM
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18. I didnt iidentify him - i just posted what he said nt
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 12:46 AM
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15. yes
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