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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 12:47 AM
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When I hear white conservatives say, "I want govt to get out of the way", I wish....
Edited on Sat Oct-09-10 12:48 AM by HardWorkingDem
So badly that there was a magic place for them to go where it really was a free for all and these idiots would see that if such a place existed, he or she would most likely be ground into grist under the unrelenting machine of the on-going drive of capitalism's need for the constant accumulation of wealth.

These fools would see that the machine would eat them up and crap them out if they were in its way even if they were one of them.

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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 12:50 AM
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1. What about non-white conservatives? n/t
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 01:01 AM
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3. Well....what brought this up was....
I was watching Bill Maher's HBO show and he had this one attractive, white, conservative woman on, S.E. Cupp, and she made this idiotic statement and while watching her it just made me thing how, "yes, it might be okay for you - being well off, attractive, white, et cetera - but for others in the real world, it's a much different story." And then of course is the next part of how systems don't give a crap about people, only how much it can extract from them regardless of how much of a team member he or she all ready is.
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the redcoat Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 12:55 AM
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2. Have pity on the brainwashed.
Everyone knows if this was really how they felt, they would have started speaking up 7 or 8 years ago. While I was at anti-war rallies, these were the people holding signs across the street saying we belonged in Iraq.


Sigh...sometimes I wish I would just wake up from this nightmare.
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 01:04 AM
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4. If they don't want a functioning government they can move to Somalia.
Edited on Sat Oct-09-10 01:05 AM by Incitatus
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 01:14 AM
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5. I hear there's a County in Tennessee that's close
Just don't start any fires there
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 08:18 AM
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9. also Colorado Springs
they turned off the street lights and won't pick up the garbage for starters.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 01:41 AM
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6. They want it out of all the wrong places and into all the wrong places
They want the government out of:
Health care
Finance
Corporations

They don't seem to mind the government being in:
Other people's countries
Other people's bedrooms
Other people's computer without a warrant
Other people's houses without a warrant
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 03:48 AM
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7. I KNOW the lady on Bill Maher said that tonight
That's the mythology, that everything would be so simple if government did nothing, that's why the nom people like COD, didn't Bush show what happens when a simpleton gets a complex job, KABOOM!!
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 05:10 AM
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8. It's that Ayn Rand bullshit
Everyone wants to live in a society where they can be king turd of shit mountain.

"If I didn't have to pay taxes, I could afford a gold plated toilet!"

Not one of these chumps seems to realize that for every dude with the gold plated toilet, there's 10 guys polishing that sucker morning, noon, and night.

I'd rather have a regular toilet in a regular house in a neighborhood where EVERYONE has indoor plumbing than go to work polishing someone else's john all day and crap in an open pit at night.



(Seriously, my grandparents lived next to a family that didn't have indoor plumbing and they crapped in a totally illegal hole in the yard. And this is in, like, 1990 in California. The gubmint, God bless 'em, eventually put a stop to it. Libertarianism is all about your neighbors deciding they're going to open a pick and pull and shit in a hole in the ground and work on cars at 3AM and steal from you and take shitloads of meth and grossly neglect their 4 wormy kids all right in view of your $600,000 mountain retirement home and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.)
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 08:40 AM
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10. That is a paradox.
Edited on Sat Oct-09-10 09:28 AM by RandomThoughts
I have some things that need to be corrected, beer and travel money and many experiences.

Those things are also for me though, so partially selfish.


So when I support an ideal, and people in that ideal do nothing to correct what is due in my situation, once again, I have to decide, should I support the ideal I believe in that many show, or smash them because they have not corrected what they should have in my situation. That is a temptation to be divided.

I avoid that setup and change it. Trying to find a way for people to both correct the situation that needs correcting in my situation, and be able to do better in much of society, trying to stop any divide between what should be corrected for me, and what I think should be corrected for many people. But have to resolve some contradictions in those ideas, or find balance in that. Holding the bridge, tying in the flanks, staying in the balance. All the same concepts.


Hence why when I say if they are in the way, mow through, mow through, but at the same time, the primary and secondary goals have to be together to not get a person to fight what is best for them also. Those ideas are trying to turn someone against there own better thoughts. And I don't let that happen, so the house is not divided.

It is walking down the middle, trying to help better ideas without causing any harm to the balance in ones own life, and keeping the flanks tied in so that they do not breach the lines.


So, better ideas should be accomplished, but not at the cost of giving up what is an accurate due to an individual. And the accurate due that will be given can not get a person to change what are there ideas of what is best. Have to keep it together, since a division in goals can create fighting oneself, and that division is spoken of in many places.

It is not easy, since there are forces that try to split a thought to turn a person against themselves. There are also some forces that split a thought to show its error, so part of keeping things tied in is learning and repositioning troops of thought.

Basically, don't let them break through your lines, but when you are doing a break through, keep the flanks tied in and hold the bridges for logistic reasons.

Although some people that push forward in front lines deserve much respect, and relief. So breaking through to reach them while they hold on their position is really important.

The Lost Battalion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNCpcyYFd0Q

Not about war though, can you see it about peace?
Side note, no deal needed for soup.

Its obvious.
Silver Spoons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71RyZuJHpj0
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