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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 04:45 AM
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Before we get carried away with Alan Grayson joining DU----
Can we get some verification from the Admins that he indeed has?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9299138
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 05:04 AM
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1. people mentioned he was able to start a thread with the first post
so i assume they know and gave him the ability to do this.

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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 05:18 AM
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2. They did the same for Thom Hartman
through verification of joining.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 05:47 AM
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3. Too late. I'm already ecstatic
Neener
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 05:52 AM
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4. I read that thread
(only the OP) had no idea there was possibility that was him. I hope he is.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 06:13 AM
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5. Welcome Alan!!!! A Brave American.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 06:24 AM
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6. Why did the link go to Act Blue instead of his own web page?
I figured someone from there joined on his behalf.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 07:04 AM
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9. A lot of dems use act blue for donation collections!
Edited on Tue Oct-12-10 07:04 AM by KansasVoter
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 08:19 AM
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13. Great, well glad he's here. We've got alot for him to read. ;) nt
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:13 AM
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30. Actually the Act Blue link strengthens the claim of authenticity
Anyone could set up an "Alan Grayson" contribution link and have the money go elsewhere. Act Blue's site
cannot be easily duplicated, and so going through them means that any money contributed here cannot be
diverted elsewhere.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 06:40 AM
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7. You heard him, Grayson...whip out some credentials.

:eyes:
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 07:01 AM
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8. I wanna see his birth certificate
Oh, wait, wrong guy... never mind.
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:17 AM
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33. Thats a good one
Check to see if he is a socialist or born in Kenya.If not Kenya surly Mars:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 10:11 AM
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43. Long form only, with a raised seal.....n/t
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 07:18 AM
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10. I'm not asking Grayson to do anything...
I'm asking the Admins for verification that it is Alan Grayson.

After all--I don't think I've ever seen an active politician join DU.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 08:02 AM
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11. I'm asking him to do one thing. WIN!
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 08:27 AM
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15. Pretty sure it's a staffer, but I guess that's the same thing?
:shrug:
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 08:14 AM
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12. I received this email in my inbox from Grayson
and it was from where I received all his other emails.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 08:32 AM
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18. It is likely a campaign staffer posting on his behalf
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 08:24 AM
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14. Thanks Trumad.
Edited on Tue Oct-12-10 08:26 AM by Myrina
I agree, we're always so anxious to welcome new 'stars' to DU sometimes we forget that this is the internets and anyone can come up with a screen name and borrow some 'validating credentials' over at Wiki or on someone's official bio page that we wouldn't really know the difference.

Would it really be in Representative Grayson's best interests - in an election year - to be spending time on an internet message board? Doesn't he have other things he can be doing with his time? And do we really think DU is that powerful in the scheme of national politics? C'mon now.

We're supposed to be the smarter party, remember? Let's stop a second, think, and verify. :hi:
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 08:56 AM
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22. I doubt the Admins would let him do an OP with zero post count
if they hadn't verified.

Julie
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:10 AM
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28. If you look at that thread
He (whoever it is) doesn't respond to any posts and doesn't participate in the thread at all. And if you read the OP he is asking for donations which is a good thing to do in an election year. Especially asking donations here where there are so many fans of Grayson.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:48 AM
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40. Smarter indeed. If it isn't an authorized post pls explain how they reset the post count to 1.
You think someone spent the time hacking into DU to post a favorable thread about Alan Grayson with a link to his ActBlue page? For what motive?

C'mon now. Let's use our superior brains before we type and embarrass ourselves. ;)
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 08:28 AM
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16. They did it with Elizabeth Edwards
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 08:30 AM
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17. Multiple names
I'm sure that there are multiple individuals that share the name "Alan Grayson". So, which one is this one?
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 08:49 AM
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19. I doubt Alan Grayson would go right into a plea for money.
Edited on Tue Oct-12-10 09:26 AM by Statistical
Likely someone from his campaign, maybe even without his knowledge or permission. Hell it could just be an "unofficial supporter".
I mean I could make a Obama account, pretend to be Obama and link to DNC for fundraising request.

The copy comes off too stiff and "unpolitical" (naive) for it to really be Grayson:

An example:
He references an article talking about spending against "vulnerable Democrats". How many politicians have you ever heard call themselves "vulnerable"? Hell they can be utterly vulnerable and they will use "fighting" words like "momentum is shifting", "I enjoy a challenge", "I won most of my races coming from behind". Vulnerable? No politician is going to say that (even if true).

Now if it indeed is confirmed I will have some crow to eat but I am fairly confident it isn't him. If it was I would imagine his staff would have contacted DU and he would have had more of an "intro" post rather than a funraising plea for his one and only post.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:12 AM
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29. Good pointt
I'm leaning to Grayson is staffer rather than actually Grayson. I'm sure if it was the real deal he would participate with a few posts.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 08:52 AM
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20. The fact that he was able to start a thread with just 1 post is a sign Admins are involved
I think you have to reply to a few posts first before you can start a brand new post as a new user.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:01 AM
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24. Could be...
but a simple verification by the Admins would be nice.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 08:53 AM
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21. My only comment is
Why would any politician in their right mind join DU? Nearly every other person who has done similar has grown to regret their choice and left DU not long after. :shrug:
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:00 AM
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23. I agree
some of the fringe bat shit crazy things posted on this site can be used against any candidate who posts on this site.

Is it bullshit---of course it is--- but that's politics.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 06:43 PM
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47. "some of the fringe bat shit crazy things posted on this site can be used against any candidate"
Absolutely. If I was in or running for office, I don't know that I would even want to be MENTIONED here sometimes!
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:01 AM
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25. +1 n/t
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:09 AM
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27. +1. nt
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 02:27 PM
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45. Sad but true. Plus I will never forget (or forgive) what DUers did to Aaron Brown
:shrug: indeed
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:04 AM
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26. My only problem with that post...
"I, I, I..."

Color me skeptical.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:14 AM
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32. It's identical to the email I got directly from their campaign, on whose list I am
He's the one being targeted by Koch/Rove, Inc. The use of the first person is only logical under the circumstances.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:39 AM
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36. I'm nitpicking, but most campaign stuff I've gotten has been "we."
However, I would love to see a politician with the guts to come here and connect with this very active base--I hope against hope that it is him.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 01:08 PM
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44. This is a special race
Grayson has been the very personal target of the radical right money machine, and he is correct in this case that it's personal.

Grayson has called the Republicans out on their hipocrisy time and time again, and they hate him with a passion that is as personal
as it is intense. In his race, there is no "we" being targeted: it's him.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 04:20 PM
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46. Good to know he scares them so! Thanks for the info. nt
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:33 AM
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35. I got the same e-mail from Grayson's campaign. We must remember FDR: "'I' welcome their hatred. nt
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:43 AM
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37. Rethinking the context, the "I" makes more sense. I was just considering that most of the e-mails
I've gotten from candidates have used "we."

Considering the framing, though, "I" is appropriate.

I'd LOVE it if a politician were to connect in this manner but I can understand why they'd be reluctant.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 10:02 AM
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41. As others point out, it's most likely someone in the campaign
Not at all like when Elizabeth Edwards personally joined some discussions here.

As it appears special dispensation was granted for a first-post OP, it's likely this was done with Grayson's knowledge. I can see a staffer suggesting that this would be a good place to come for support, and Grayson giving the okay--and that being the whole extent of his personal involvement. In the final weeks of a tough campaign, Grayson is certainly not going to be spending his time on DU.

The Admins may have been misled into approving this. I doubt they'd have given the okay had they known it was to be a hit-and-run appeal for donations from a campaign staffer using Grayson's name.

:hi:
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:13 AM
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31. I live in Orlando and Grayson is my Congressman
I just called their local campaign office and spoke with one of the head campaign folks there--- and he doubts very seriously that Alan posted this or approved it.

He could be wrong...but?
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:26 AM
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34. Is he truly a member, when his first and only post so far...
is an appeal for donations to his campaign?

DU is a vibrant and diverse community of knowledgeable and involved political animals. Rep Grayson may find that our value is much more than just our pocketbooks.

Sid
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:45 AM
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38. While I believe it is him, it would be nice of the admin or a mod would verify it. nt
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:48 AM
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39. He coulld be verified by the donation to DU.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 10:09 AM
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42. You can tell that they've verified because he was given permission to post an OP as his first post.
Normally a new account has to post a certain number of replies before starting a new thread.
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 06:49 PM
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48. I doubt it seriously this is the man himself
I have twice interviewed him on my radio show and never did I actually speak with him directly until the interview. If you had heard the interviews you would realize how busy the man is so I doubt seriously the man would post here especially during a campaign. I also got the email which had exactly the same words.
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