Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

NBC Today Show spanks Carter for saying what American majority thinks

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 09:19 AM
Original message
NBC Today Show spanks Carter for saying what American majority thinks
Edited on Mon May-21-07 09:21 AM by npincus
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18759682/

Meredith Viera seemed to scold Carter about the "appropriateness" of criticizing a President at a time of war; the MSM validating AS USUAL the tragic Iraq folly that the US was recklessly, needlessly led into by our "Commander-in-Chief" whom we are supposed to respect, admire, and cast aside our constitutional right to criticize.

Absurd.

Absurd that former President Carter should be called out for violating his First Amendment right to free speech, becoming the object of criticism, instead of looking at what he said and why he said it. So Carter is villified, and then backtracks a bit (why he did, I don't know) and the MSM leaves the impression that Chimp was somehow treated unfairly or disrespectfully. Nice f*cking spin, bastards. Well, I think the majority of Americans agree with Carter, and history will surely concur.





Interviewed on the TODAY Show about the comments, Carter said, "They were maybe careless or misinterpreted." He said he “certainly was not talking personally about any president.”

When pressed by NBC’s Meredith Vieira as to whether he was saying his remarks were careless or reckless, the former president said, “I think they were, yes, because they were interpreted as comparing this whole administration to all other administrations."

Carter said he was answering a question about the foreign policy of former President Richard Nixon, as compared with that of the current administration. He said he wasn't comparing the Bush administration with all those through American history. But in comparison to Nixon's, the Bush administration's foreign policy "was much worse," Carter said.

On Sunday, in a biting rebuke, the White House dismissed Carter as “increasingly irrelevant."

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 09:28 AM
Response to Original message
1. Don't back down Jimmy!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sheerjoy Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 10:00 AM
Response to Reply #1
10. He already did
the BushCo Mafia got to him early where he was working for others.

Jimmy is a better than Bush - or Meredith - will ever be.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sheerjoy Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 10:00 AM
Response to Reply #1
11. He already did
the BushCo Mafia got to him early where he was working for others.

Jimmy is a better than Bush - or Meredith - will ever be.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 09:29 AM
Response to Original message
2. Tough Darts
Who ever gave a crap about what Meredith Viera said about ANYTHING? Particularly as an interviewer.

Old Jimmy is showing the younger Democrats what it means to have some cojones!

Go Jimmy!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 09:32 AM
Response to Original message
3. "A time of war." LMAO.
A time of unjustified occupation and war profiteering is more like it.

I try to convince people to stop watching network "news."

It is nothing but propaganda for the war profiteering robber barons.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 09:33 AM
Response to Original message
4. Why, I remember well the media attacking the right for criticizing
Clinton during a time of war.... the Balkans.:sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 09:53 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. And also
just like how they went after Reagan for slamming Clinton only a few months into Clinton's first term. They really raked Reagan over the coals on that one! :sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hunter_1253 Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 09:45 AM
Response to Original message
5. I'm waiting for the outrage...
about the administration calling Jimmy Carter irrelevant. Imagine, an administration calling another president irrelevant. Let alone a man who is a best selling author, a man who has far more international policy experience and credit to his name, a man who is a Nobel Prize winner, a man who has done remarkable good with his Habitat for Humanity project, and a man who actually served in the military where you can actually find records of his time there.

Carter may not have been the greatest president to ever hold the position, but he also wasn't a humongous failure like the current lemon we have in office. For Bushie and his ilk to get this riled up over the comments of Jimmy Carter means they're really on the defensive. Can't have any bad news on the air right now, because people might start asking questions about Attorney Generals getting fired or Heckuva Job Wolfie instead of picking which song they'll sing when we win the war on terra.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 09:49 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. the current "lemon" we have in office-- LOL
"lemon": understated, but true. If only he came with a warranty.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 09:58 AM
Response to Original message
8. what is Absurd is Carter backing down, and reversing his statement
by saying he didn't really mean bush was the worst president

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sheerjoy Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 10:05 AM
Response to Reply #8
12. Grrr yes....
the BushCo Mafia got to him early where he was working for others.

Jimmy is a better man than Bush - or Meredith - will ever be.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #8
16. I am in shock
Edited on Mon May-21-07 01:39 PM by malaise
I'd like to hear from Carter himself.


I just heard Carter himself. He simply stated that what he said was taken out of context. Be wary of the spin.

Add.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 09:59 AM
Response to Original message
9. Here's an idea ...
Instead of trying to determine whether his remarks were careless or reckless, perhaps the MSM should try to determine if his remarks were valid. Wouldn't THAT be a far more useful discussion? :eyes:

They pulled this same shit when Gore criticized the Iraq war a few years ago. All the talking heads debated whether or not it was "appropriate" or if he actually had a "right" to say the things he did ... but no one discussed the CONTENT of his speech or the validity of his remarks.

To avoid the facts, always distract. :grr: Why listen to a Nobel Prize Laureate when you can worship a drunken, wannabe cowboy? Will we ever have a REAL news media again?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 10:07 AM
Response to Original message
13. At what point is speaking the truth
inappropriate. Fuck Meredith Viera. It is time for all rational people to force MSM to deal with the truth and change the tone of debate.

Al Gore tore Diane Sawyer a new one this morning re her inability to lift the debate. She merely continued with her stupid line of questioning and each time Gore destroyed her.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 10:13 AM
Response to Reply #13
14. At the point where every single other DC Dem didn't back Jimmy up
when the WH started to attack.

The Democratic party needs to learn that it needs to make sure every Dem is supported when they take a stance and that a Dem is not left hanging in the wind. GOPer jackals will always attack those who are not protected by the pack.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 10:38 AM
Response to Original message
15. The stupid bitch ought to go back to hosting "So You Want To Be A Millionaire."
Edited on Mon May-21-07 10:39 AM by Benhurst
She obviously wants to be one or she wouldn't have sold her soul for a spot on the Today Show.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri May 03rd 2024, 07:02 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC