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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:11 AM
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Who is the typical person without a landline?
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 04:31 AM by pstokely
I guess they are younger, lower income, minority, and transient. Older white suburban homeowners are probably the most likely to have landlines. I'm guessing the polling companies consider those without landlines to be likely voters. An increasing number of people have caller ID and don't answer when they don't recognize the caller or if the caller shows up as private/unknown on the caller ID. I'm guess that people who answer pollsters are also likely to answer telemarketers.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:16 AM
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1. Just more active. Many active families and singles don't answer the land line; it's always spam.
It's there for the Internet connect.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:19 AM
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2. I know people with landlines who don't know what their phone numbers are.
They got them for security systems.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:20 AM
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3. Heh.
I don't know anyone with a landline, and the people I hang with are 40s, financially comfortable, own houses. We have twisted copper pair for the DSL; there's a phone number asoociated with it but it's never been used as anything but a DSL.
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:20 AM
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4. 31 white, m, alright job, haven't had a land line since college
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 04:22 AM by Tunkamerica
in 2001. oh and i own my home.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:20 AM
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5. i'm cell only, my internet connection is cable.
a single middle aged male.

but yes the demographics of who still has landlines, and who will actually bother to answer particpate in a phone poll is changing and those factors could skew poll results.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:55 AM
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22. Same here
except for gender.
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:21 AM
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6. a better question is:
who considers people to be without landlines poorer, younger, less white and less stable?
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:29 AM
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7. How many old white suburban homeowners do you know without landlines?
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 04:34 AM by pstokely
Old habits die slowly, including voting Repuke. A transient young college student who moves around a lot never even bothers to call the phone company for landline since they have a cell phone but this also means they don't bother to register to vote whent they move except for big elections and probably aren't even connected to local politics and don't bother to request and absentee ballot from the permanent location (usually parents house) because they don't consider that their home anymore while the old white suburban homeowner has been in the present location for years and has a connection with local politics. These people have probably had the same number on their landline for over 10 years and hasn't needed to register to vote since they moved into their home
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:55 AM
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12. i've been registered in every district i've moved to
as have my younger brothers who also have no landlines. 2 of us own houses. We actually just choose not to pay for 2 phone lines when it isn't necessary and costs more money. And the only thing a landline offers is telemarketers. And I've been in my "area" for 5 years.

I'd say these misconceptions are only held by the type of person you mention.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:26 AM
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18. Raises hand.
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 07:01 AM by Le Taz Hot
:shrug: I haven't had a landline in years.

On re-re-edit: To clarify that there was actually a POINT to my post -- I'm one of those "older," white, suburban people. Most of my friends of that description don't have landlines either.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:35 AM
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8. We do have a landline and can always tell when it is a robocall.
Thing is, we are slow to answer the phone, so those same numbers keep calling back every 10 minutes or so until we do answer in time. It always turns out to be some robocall when it continues to ring in 10 minute intervals like that.

I wonder how many more people could be reached if they would let it go ahead and ring long enough for us slowpokes to get to it, say like 4 or 5 rings. It would end up taking less time than calling back over and over again. Instead, it is just 3 rings and gone. It takes me 2 rings to cuss about the phone ringing (I hate phones, except in case of emergency) and the third ring to get up and go in the other room and get the phone.
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:39 AM
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9. Are you a homeowner?
With an established career and connections to your area? Do renters even bother to call the phone company for a landline when they move from place to place?
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:51 AM
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10. I have one but it's never answered
infact the bell is turned off of it. I only use it for outgoing calls, such as when it's a long call with a friend because the cell phone gets so hot on my ear. Also for more security when discussing finances with the bank or credit card company.
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:56 AM
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13. Um... more security?
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:16 PM
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29. Security may not be the right word but there is feedback (or maybe its called echo)
on them and when I'm talking finanaces I want the conversation to be clearly understood by the other party I'm talking to.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:54 AM
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11. With the advent of VOIP why bother with landline..?

I lived in northern AZ..there were no landlines..I don't fit any of the demographics..Satellite for internet was the only choice
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:37 AM
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16. Because of those lovely, lovely banks...
...of lead-acid wet batteries up at the headhouse.

When the power goes out -- and it does, regularly -- the landline phone works.

We were power-out for 14 days in '98 (ice-storm) and never lost the phone. Three days this spring (nor'easter) ditto.
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 07:13 AM
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25. But does DSL still work
You could run the DSL modem and router from a car power inverter
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:51 PM
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34. Something of an anal tonsillectomy, though.
...insofar as you could do it that way, but it would be messy and difficult.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 07:17 AM
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26. That's the main reason I'll never give up mine
I'll also never give up my old, corded Trimline phone for that reason. It doesn't need electricity to operate, like the cordless phones do, or cell phone rechargers do. Nor, do landlines drop your call every two minutes, like cell phones do.

I saw upthread a claim that the only thing landlines bring is telemarketers. Funny, after the "Do not call" thing got started, I have never gotten a telemarketer. ALL of my friends with cell phones, on the other hand, get calls constantly.
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:24 PM
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30. I've only gotten one telemarketer on my cell phone
and when I told them it was a cell phone they said sorry and hung up.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:22 AM
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14. I'm on Social Security, own my home, educated and got .....
...rid of my land line a couple years ago.

I've been doing phone bank calls for Russ Feingold and lots and lots of numbers have been disconnected.

I suspect your generalizations are off-target.
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:31 AM
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15. Many people may not even have a phone at all
nt
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:24 AM
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17. Older white suburban homeowner here - no landline
Most of our friends are getting rid of their landlines too.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:35 AM
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19. Landline works no matter what.
Lose power and your portable handset won't work, your cellphone battery dies or tower power goes and you have no communication.

A friend of mine in Houston lost power for 6 days during the last hurricane there. Every time he picked up his landline phone, he had dial tone. His cell phone worked sporadically because some of the towers had no power.

I have a landline phone with one hardwired phone-I may sit in the dark but I can call out.
I also have a VOIP that I use for long distance and very few people have that number.
I have a cell which isn't even turned on 90% of the time and only about 6 people have that number-when I leave the house I don't want to be bothered on the phone.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:42 AM
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20. We have a landline because it is cheaper and
our computer is hooked to it also. I keep a Tracfone which is always off and is used for travel or running errands in town during the winter in case I have a road emergency. I buy minutes once a year and usually have minutes left over at the end of the year. Otherwise, I rarely use the phone except to talk to my children or to make appointments or for business. Until cell phones lose the contracts and become cheaper, we'll keep our current communication arrangement.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:54 AM
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21. What makes you think that cell phones work everywhere?
Let me give you a clue, there are plenty of homes in this country that are planted in places where there is no cell phone coverage.
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 07:05 AM
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24. Rural areas mostly
Full of older white conservative "likely" voters
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:59 AM
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23. We have one but don't answer it unless
we recognize the number. I used to feel bad about screening the numbers but don't anymore because we were getting so many junk calls. I know for a fact that most of our friends also screen their calls as well. The main reason we have a landline is because not everyone in the home has a mobile (two younger kids), we get terrible reception on this street and we get hurricane power outages.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:29 AM
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27. I think the demographic's broader.
Includes whites, more affluent people. Land-lines are increasingly being seen as obsolete. And just about everyone screens calls or doesn't answer calls at all through land-lines they do have (including me.)
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 01:16 PM
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28. I'm 72, white - no landline.
Gave it up couple of years ago. Good decision.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:25 PM
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31. the polls no longer reflect america...they are archaic
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:26 PM
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32. Me. Married 32 yo male condo owner
High income.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:46 PM
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33. No Landline for 4yrs. We're 58 & 62, retired, homeowners, white..
...well I am, Hubbie is Chinese. We use pay as you go cell phones and MagicJack only (used to be Skype before eBay ruined it).

When we lived in the Bay Area, we had 'naked DSL' - which is DSL over a phone line with NO phone service required. Now we live in a small town on the Oregon Coast that offers High Speed Internet through 'over the air' wifi. If you are range of the tower - you can get 5-10 meg service - good enough that we no longer have any TV services either - we stream all TV/Movies these days.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:53 PM
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35. I don't have a landline since I was able to get unlimed calling
on my cell phone.

I imagine as more cell phone companies offer unlimited calling, more people will drop their landlines.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:56 PM
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36. I'm white, female, well-off, and I just ditched mine. Oh, and a VERYVERYVERY likely voter.
As in, you'd have to drag me kicking and screaming (actually, I'me early voting tomorrow!)
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