The Mexican pirates story and the beheading. What were the sources

on that? I'm asking because Naomi Wolf says it has holes in it and she is having confirmation problems with it. So I was just wondering. Has it all been substantiated?

Just the usual reliable sources.

And if she's having trouble confirming then she should realize this has been situation normal in Mexico for close to six years. Just got American attention now.

Jesus every time I go down there we have frontline reports... Perhaps she should contact Radio Formula.

What is Radio Formula? She hasn't gotten very far with American news sources I guess because of lack of confirmation on the other side.

And Radio Formula is the largest news reporting in Mexico.

Perhaps she should contact oh Jacobo Zabludovsky, Mexico's Edward R Murrow.

This happened in Mexico. Jurisdiction is Mexico, perhaps that's where her issues are coming from.

It's not like it used to be..

We used to load up the van & drive down to San Felipe with our boys.. We were never worried about wandering down lonesome sandy roads to isolated beaches.. or about letting 3 pre-teen boys have the run of the place.

The drug cartel stuff has changed everything.. You could innocently stumble upon a rendezvous point & end up dead..

I'm sure that parts of Mexico are perfectly safe, but the lonely out-of-the-way places are not what they used to be.

Back country search and rescue with armed army scouts... And the shoot outs were just lovely.

Yes I am a combat vet, and it's just gotten worst.

Open the paper any day and in a good day only two or three people were killed. We are at what nine Mayors killed so-far this year?

There was a story in the last year, I think, about a popular singer gunned down on the streets of a town. She was rushed to the hospital, where they saved her after 12 hours of surgery, and they placed guards on her recovery room. Gunmen broke into the hospital, killed the guards, and shot her in her hospital bed.

A lot of this recent violence is because the new Mexican government is trying to crack down more than ever on the cartels, but another cause is the US's shutting down the borders. Along with immigrants it's harder to get drugs across, so there is a shrinking pot to fight over along the border, at the same time the Mexican border states are having to deal with an influx of would-be immigrants stranded on their side, driving up crime and poverty rates as people from all over Central and South America are piling up on the border in states that already can't handle their own poor. There have already been shocking massacres of such immigrants.

It's a horrifying problem, and it will spill over to our side more and more if we don't find some way to alleviate some of the impact on the Mexican side of the border. Imagine large-scale riots of people trying to cross over, and our military having to fire tear gas into the crowds, or even bullets. We will wind up portrayed as the new East Germany. I don't know how likely that is to happen, or how far we are from it, but that's a growing problem we need to pay attention to, IMHO.

The wife says they crossed to a sunken church on jet skis, were attacked by pirates, and fled. Her husband was killed, she escaped back to the USA side. She's the only witness to that. After doubts were raised by law enforcement on both sides of the border, a witness came forward and told the US sheriff that he saw the wife fleeing a boat across the lake, covered in blood, in tears, so now the sheriff is investigating, and the Mexican authorities are taking it seriously. That same witness, or another one (both are remaining anonymous) went public saying he saw the wife fleeing, but did not say he saw her being chased, so either there are two witnesses, or Sheriff Gonzalez has heard testimony the witness didn't say publicly, or the media has expanded on the story, or something.

The lake has a history of "pirates" or bandits robbing American boaters, but no fatalities have happened until this time, so most residents on the lake are skeptical, saying it doesn't fit the normal pattern for the bandits. No body or jet ski has been found, and people point out that the witness could be lying for attention, or that he could have misunderstood what he saw--like maybe a scared murderer crossing the lake near another boat that wasn't chasing her. That's all speculation, too.

An investigator named two brothers in the Zeta gang he believed were the shooters, but others said there was no basis for this claim. That same investigator was found decapitated--Mexican police have now verified that. As far as I know, there is no proof the beheading was the result of the Lake Falcon incident. It's possible he stumbled on something else while investigating, or that he was killed for some other reason. But his death has been confirmed by Mexican authorities.

A San Antonio "Think Tank" has claimed that they have knowledge that the attack was a mistaken identity attack from two young guns in the Zetas who thought the man was a rival gang member and killed him, and that now they are being hunted (or are already dead) by the Zetas for not following orders and for bringing this much attention to the region by their mistake. The husband's body, they say, has been destroyed so it won't be found. Until they release some sources, though, that's just hearsay.

So that's about all I know. Nothing is completely corroborated anywhere, but the wife does have a sworn witness to back part of her story, an investigator was murdered while investigating the case, there is hearsay evidence that something happened, and there is a missing person and jet ski, so the momentum seems to have swung towards believing her story, or at least investigating as though they believe it--cops keep a lot of their suspicions quiet while they investigate. Still, it is basically her word that he was murdered, and no body has been found anywhere, and no concrete evidence either way has been presented. I haven't seen any stories about her marriage or issues involving affairs or any of the usual things you start hearing when these types of stories start to swing against the spouse, but that doesn't mean anything.

And the victim's father has behaved oddly. He has criticized the Mexican government and has not that I've heard expressed any doubts about the story. On the other hand when told that an investigator had been killed he seemed to lose it, saying he didn't think anyone else should die trying to find his son, and implying they should stop the investigation. Maybe that was just grief and shock--easily understandable--but I thought it was odd, considering everyone else was galvanized by the investigator's murder.

So, that's what I've heard. :( I'm not getting the usual bad vibe I get when I think a spouse is guilty, and I can see the story happening exactly the way the wife said it did, so I'm leaning towards believing her. On the other hand, I hope they have searched fields and deserts in the nearby area, scanned the lake for sunken jet skis, and done basic background checks, just in case. Something has happened to the husband, and the investigation needs to look at all the possibilities, if for no other reason than to clear the wife. What Naomi Wolf knows beyond that, I don't know, but I wouldn't be floored if the story turned out to be fake.

Nothing will bring back his son, and it;s highly unlikely that anyone will ever be brought to justice (given the drug cartel activity in the area), so I can understand him being upset that more people may die trying to find out where his son's body is. The family may have resigned themselves to the fact that they may never really have all the details, and they may be ready to hold a memorial and grieve privately.

Great film about a thirty year old murder mystery on the Mexican border. Chris Cooper, Kris Kristoferson, Matthew McCoughnehey (or however he spells it), Elizabeth Pena. Not only is it one of the best movies I've ever seen about the cultural mix along the Texas border, but it's perfect for demonstrating how complicated what seems like a straightforward murder can be. :)

Sounds interesting though.

So we got a cal to check on a boy who was shall we say abused?

Well boy was kidnapped in OH (wrong state but)

Well he did speak Spanish. He learned it over the last three years of hell. To make a long story short since he was kidnapped in OH, his local and state police had jurisdiction. Since state lines were crossed so did the FBI. Oh and since the local cops in TJ did the rescue on a tip, they did, but so did the Federal Police and both immigration services and of course State and the Foreign Office.

I guess I could write a book.

Oh and I forgot the DIF as well.

In the end kid did go back home and the guys taken into custody received the max.