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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:20 PM
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Poll question: Straight DUers Only: When did you make the choice?
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 04:46 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
At what age did you choose to be straight?
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:23 PM
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1. I am as God made me!
Heterosexuality is not just a "lifestyle choice"!

I was born this way, dagnabit!

;)
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:24 PM
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2. When Charlie's Angels premiered
I am such a stereotype
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:29 PM
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5. I bet you liked the "butt dimples"
In the opening segment:)
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:37 PM
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11. Tinker Bell did it for me...
I had a Disney comic from about 1960. There was a story that involve Tinker Bell...I saw her and I lost my heart that day! :loveya: I was just a kid then!



Oh, Tinker! Why do you torment me so...:cry:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:53 PM
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13. Hahahaha!
You just used my daughters phrase! "Why do you torment me so?"

:rofl:

She is currently very upset with the Dodgers for trading her imaginary baseball boyfriend (somewhat of a custom in my family) Blake DeWitt! She even drove two hours to San Diego to see him play on his new team!

:rofl:

I wanted Tink to be my best friend... Mary Ann and Ellie Mae Clampet too.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 07:49 PM
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31. She really is fine
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:45 PM
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56. posted in wrong place....
Edited on Fri Oct-15-10 12:46 PM by aikoaiko
sorry.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:26 PM
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3. When that cute 3-year-old neighbor boy gave me a ride on his tricycle. :)
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 04:29 PM by polichick
But maybe that was more about awareness than choice.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:28 PM
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4. Can we have "other" as a choice?
I've never even been bi-curious, but I don't find homosexuality offensive at all... if ever stranded on a desert island with only women, I may have to change my mind.
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sadbear Donating Member (799 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:30 PM
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6. I never knew I had a choice.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:30 PM
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7. You're making a point here aren't you?
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 04:32 PM by tularetom
:thumbsup::fistbump:

Hey, I'm no dummy.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:31 PM
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8. And apparently a controversial one...
given the unrec activity
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:35 PM
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10. This question was asked on some show yesterday - maybe Rachel's -
It's a good one!
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:42 PM
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12. That's quite a few anonymous cowards, isn't it?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:35 PM
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9. I doubt there's ever a concious CHOICE by anyone. I think
as we grow and mature, we are attracted to different things & different people. Even THAT happens at many different ages.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:56 PM
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14. When I first saw Haether Locklair in the early 80s.....hahaha
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 04:58 PM
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15. Having grown up in the West Village,
going to school down the street from the Stonewall, I will say NEVER. I was attracted to boys/men. I never questioned it, even living among gays, and having an openly gay Aunt, from early childhood. That didn't "make" me grow up gay, but what it did was let me see gays as HUMAN BEINGS.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:00 PM
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16. I made the choice last night, right around the time
I chose to order pizza for dinner.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:11 PM
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17. I have no choice.
To tell you the truth, I think that little guy down there has a mind of it's own.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:17 PM
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18. Every time I hear a homophobic person shooting his or her mouth off
I ask them how old were you when you decided you liked the opposite sex. I'm straight but I have a good friend who we grew up together and it was obvious even back when we were kids he was different from me. I take up for him and have my whole life as he's my brother.
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:22 PM
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19. I was exposed to porn at a very young age
(5yo) and, for some reason unknown to me at the time, liked what I saw!
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:22 PM
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20. Maybe they just haven't met the right member of the same sex?
:shrug:


:evilgrin:

(I didn't vote, I dig dudes and am one!)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:25 PM
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21. Aparently the rabbi just now on the Ed Show
Did such at 13. Oy gevalt!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:27 PM
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22. The First Time I Saw Kathy Holmes
4th Grade.

:D

No... there was no choice.

:shrug:
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:54 PM
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23. What does the "Q" in "LGBTIQ" stand for? n/t
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:11 PM
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28. Sometimes questioning, sometimes queer. Nt
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:44 AM
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47. When would the Questioning 'make their choice'? n/t
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 02:52 AM
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51. They don't make a choice. They recognize what they already are.
Edited on Fri Oct-15-10 02:55 AM by ThomCat
The questioning is not a process of choosing. It is a process of discovering.

At the end of that discovery, we come out of the closet, having discovered that we are not what we were always told we Should be, and what we were supposed to be, and what we were programmed by society to be through all the peer pressures and social norms and expectations and traditions.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:56 PM
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24. enough already.
the woman apologized, what the fuck else do you want?

have you never said anything stupid in your life? give it up already. She is not the enemy, the enemy is over there ------------> to the right.

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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:57 PM
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26. +1000
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:57 AM
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49. I'm gay and I think this is so stupid.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:58 AM
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50. I'm gay and I think this is so stupid.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:57 PM
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25. A poster of Heather Thomas in a hot tub made it for me. n/t
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:59 PM
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27. There was no choice for me...
I am a heterosexual male... and was born that way.

If you want to when I became aware of my sexual preferences, then I'd say that I was about 4 or 5 at the time I first noticed girls.

Anyone who says I had a "choice" is either not secure in their own sexuality or they're just plain fucked in the head....
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:15 PM
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29. Not a choice but I believe I become aware of at age 8.
I was looking at clothes catalog and in the swimsuit section there was a pic of a woman getting out the pool in a white one-piece that became sheer in water.

Start your engines.
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:20 PM
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30. I never made a choice, it just happened. To be honest, I was
pretty old before I knew there were people who were not attracted to the opposite sex. LOL, and this with two uncles and one aunt who were homosexual. Talk about naive! It just never occurred to me. And I believe that no one "makes a choice". It just happens.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 07:51 PM
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32. LOVE it!
Thanks for posting.

Until today I never knew we had so many homophobes on DU.

Blind Obama followers yes...but homophobes? I had no clue.

GD has been an eye opener today.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 07:52 PM
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33. haha... so true.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 07:54 PM
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34. Can't help myself, just love women.
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 08:34 PM by asdjrocky
But I will add that I think Matt Damon is dreamy. I mean, have you seen how cool he is in the Bourne movies?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 07:58 PM
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35. Okay, now you're weirding me out
I'm about as straight as guys get, but there is something about Matt Damon.

Is this a new orientation? Hetero-male (except for maybe Matt Damon)
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:18 PM
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36. Oh, it's a full on man crush.
It's not like I want to kiss him, I just want to hang out. You know, smoke some purp, maybe a little ps3.

When I found out he grew up literally next door to Howard Zinn and took People's History to school in the 5th grade, that clinched it for me. When he did The People Speak, that was icing on the cake. It's funny, but if there is a Matt Damon movie on, and I do not care what it is, I'm almost always watching.

Just for fun...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dysvMW4fQ8c
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sylvi Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:16 PM
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39. I get you
With me for a while it was Rivers Cuomo.

Odd, huh?
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sylvi Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:13 PM
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38. Damosexual?
:)
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 05:07 PM
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59. He's like the male Angelina Jolie.
The one woman most straight women would make an exception for.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:24 PM
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37. I was born that way, there was no choice
same as if I were gay, I would have been born gay. It's not something you decide on.:shrug: I just can't see what is so hard to understand.
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:22 PM
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41. Charming
:wtf:
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:25 PM
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45. Yuk. Pretty offensive and disrespectful. nt
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:41 PM
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53. damn! I missed it
Sounds like it was a real winner
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:26 PM
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42. When I found myself wanting to do Lady Evelyn on Mr. Rodgers Neighborhood when I was five.
:evilgrin:
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:53 PM
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43. For me it was Shaun Cassidy
but the same idea. ;)
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:43 PM
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55. That sounds to me like a realization of something that was already there.
An awakening.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 10:45 PM
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44. Seems like if you 'made a choice' at a definite age -permanently- then it wasn't much of a choice
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 11:36 PM by kenny blankenship
Not for you. Not really.

Stable sexual orientation, if it is to be thought of in any sense as a choice, would seem to be more like a choice that you would have to continually keep on making the same way. To be straight by choice, you would have to keep passing up the option of going gay - wanting to go gay, tempted that way, but not doing so for whatever reason. If you crossed the line at any time, you would have to admit that you were not exactly what is meant by "straight" any longer. You've swerved over the line and can't quite call yourself straight, even if people in your life would know nothing about your experimentation. On the other hand, if you never swerve over the line throughout your entire life, it doesn't sound like you were actually presented with a real choice. I'm not saying that free choice of sexual orientation would resemble a series of coin tosses, day after day, but if you can deny yourself same-sex attraction, suppressing the experience of that attraction, by choice, and somehow keep choosing heterosexual attraction instead, and keep choosing it and keep choosing it, then something else is largely determining your "choice". It doesn't sound much like free will to me. I don't know whether that something else is nature or social prohibition, but something has its thumb on the scale.

It's like eating the same food every day. If you had a choice between Italian and Chinese food, and those were your only two choices, what would it mean to choose one -and only one- of these every single time for your entire life? Say for some reason you had been in the habit of eating Italian night after night - that's how you started cooking and ordering food. Wouldn't you eventually want to have Chinese for once - that is if you actually had any attraction to it? Wouldn't the sheer repetitiousness of pasta and tomato and oregano/rosemary/garlic get to you after a while, and drive you to order Chinese, some nice Kung Pao Chicken, if Chinese was something you could actually "choose"? Wouldn't you have to say that if you never, ever, never once ordered Chinese, even though you could have it just by deciding to, that you actually must have some level of dislike and distaste for it which drove you to the default "choice" of Italian food instead - every goddamn night?

There are two styles of cooking in this example, but someone who always had the same thing wasn't actually choosing. Their choice was determined by some inherent bias -an orientation towards oregano and cheese, perhaps- over which their free will was not really the master. Or else five spice and ginger are something they instinctively keep their distance from. They knew about the other style of cuisine. But basically they don't like it. A "decision" between something that you basically like and something that you basically don't like, a decision that comes to the same result every time, isn't so much a free "choice", or a "preference", as it is an expression of someone's intrinsic nature. You can choose between two things you like and experience attraction for. But in a decision between a thing you like and a thing you don't like, the word "choice" doesn't have the same meaning.
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Unrepentant Fenian Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:52 PM
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46. I made the decision to be straight...
right before I made the decision to be six feet tall. I really think I made the right call on both. I also made the decision to look like Brad Pitt, but I guess I wavered a little on that one.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:49 AM
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48. When I was programmed by the patriarchy via looking at porny mags.
That must have been it.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:13 AM
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52. I just like boobies, what can I say?
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pgodbold Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:11 PM
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62. I'm kinda scared of em! (G posting on a S thread (sorry))
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:42 PM
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54. K&R - This is my favorite question to people who say homosexuals chose to be homosexual
Not one has given me a "straight" answer yet.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:46 PM
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57.  There was a time when I questioned, but after some introspection I realized what I was



I wouldn't call it a choice, more of self-awareness. But I did choose to act and not act on impulses and preferences.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 05:05 PM
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58. I put 0-4 but it happened at conception
I didn't choose as such.

When I was about 25 a friend asked me out and made a bit of an effort to seduce me. I had no response, physical or emotional, apart from "You know this isn't working,"

"Perhaps if you relaxed more ..." he suggested,

"If I relax any more I'll ooze into the carpet,"

"You're right, it isn't working," he looked hugely embarrassed,

I don't recall any more of the conversation because he became deeply scared. I later, a few days, found out that he had been assaulted by other straights when he had made passes at them. We stayed friends but we drifted apart when I moved. Not every gay has "gaydar"
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 05:11 PM
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60. Never - nt
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:07 PM
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61. Sounds pretty silly doesn't it?
I made the choice when I was only 8 cells and noticed this cute red blood cell floating by...
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