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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 09:59 PM
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D'oh! Crystal Cathedral megachurch files for bankruptcy
GARDEN GROVE, Calif. (AP) — Crystal Cathedral, the megachurch birthplace of the televangelist show "Hour of Power," filed for bankruptcy Monday in Southern California after struggling to emerge from debt that exceeds $43 million.

In addition to a $36 million mortgage, the Orange County-based church owes $7.5 million to several hundred vendors for services ranging from advertising to the use of live animals in Easter and Christmas services.

The church had been negotiating a repayment plan with vendors, but several filed lawsuits seeking quicker payment, which prompted a coalition formed by creditors to fall apart, church officials said.

"Tough times never last, every storm comes to an end. Right now, people need to hear that message more than ever," Sheila Schuller Coleman, the Cathedral's senior pastor and daughter of the founder, told reporters outside the worship hall.

"Everybody is hurting today. We are no exception," she said.

The church, founded in the mid-1950s by the Rev. Robert H. Schuller Sr., has already ordered major layoffs, cut the number of stations airing the "Hour of Power" and sold property to stay afloat. In addition, the 10,000-member church canceled this year's "Glory of Easter" pageant, which attracts thousands of visitors and is a regional holiday staple.

Vendors owed money by the church formed a committee in April and agreed to a moratorium to negotiate a repayment plan with the Crystal Cathedral.

Kristina Oliver, whose Hemet-based company provided live animals for the church's "Glory of Christmas" manger scene, said she doubts she will recover in full the $57,000 she is owed.


more: http://tinyurl.com/2766wpb

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 10:03 PM
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1. Some Christians take a vow of poverty
Others, have poverty thrust upon them.

Let's see which version of Christianity lasts.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 10:05 PM
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2. One less CHURCH in the world........This IS a good thing!
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 10:06 PM
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3. Cracks show at Crystal Cathedral as they fail to pay their bills....
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:00 PM
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4. I just replied to another thread about this. Check this out.


Yes. That's a CHURCH.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:12 PM
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6. There was an article in Harper's some years ago
that pointed out the one thing missing from nearly all megachurches was any sort of religious symbolism, that they were all huge concert venues and the only way you could tell they had anything to do with religion was from the torrent of rubbish from the pulpit.

Perhaps in a more enlightened age, far removed from Millennial Fever, those places will be converted into pure concert venues and the prayerful will go to the little neighborhood churches where they can actually find community.

All I can think looking at the monstrosity here is that I'd hate to have to focus those lights. However, I can see it would be a wonderful home for a symphony orchestra.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:15 PM
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7. Now that is obscene.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 01:38 AM
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17. well, its one heckuva piece of architecture.
For a little icing on the cake, I'd like to see a Devildriver concert take place there once they convert it into a concert hall!
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 06:23 AM
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21. Holy shit...that choir loft is about twice the size of the church from my childhood. n/t
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 06:44 AM
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22. You're kidding me, right?
Who would worship there? Who?
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:02 PM
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5. Praaaayez Jeeeeesus!
:woohoo:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:23 PM
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8. $57K for animal rental, how typical of their vendors is that, looks like the Prosperity Gospel may
be good for some pretty high profit margins for these faith-based vendors.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:30 PM
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9. How many hungry kids would $57K feed?
Good grief. How disgusting.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 12:13 AM
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14. That's soooooo "not in The Bible", you'd think they'd be ashamed.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:34 PM
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10. Is that the price for one pageant, or accrued over several years? (I should hope)
How many animals did they hire for the pageants, anyway?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 12:15 AM
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15. Maybe that's what it costs to de-sheep-poop the Crystal Temple.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:36 PM
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11. Robert Shuller *was the Crystal Cathedral. His kids just aren't measuring up.
Talk about a cult of personality...


Do you suppose there will be a buyer for the CC? Maybe Knotts Berry Farm wants to expand?
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 03:25 PM
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26. Yep. All those pockets full of money wandered away after the old bigot croaked.
Every mega-church is nothing but an entertainment venue for the sheep to see a song and dance, get told they are all Gawd's chosen people, the shouter in the pulpit vilifies all those different from them, and get the money out of their tight little fists.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 06:24 PM
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27. Don't forget the admonishments to (psssttt...vote republicon)
Schuller was a political shill and snakeoil salesman.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:48 PM
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12. All organized religion pretty much sucks
but this brand of Disneyland, show biz, wealth worshiping pseudo religion is an especially toxic strain.

We can only hope to see other "megachurches" shutting their doors as the crappy economy chews up and spits out more of their parishoners.

A dubious benefit of hard times but a benefit nonetheless,
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:56 PM
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13. agreed
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 12:16 AM
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16. woopsie.
What they didn't get enough dough to pave the streets in gold or what?
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 01:44 AM
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18. Maybe they can just convert it into the Crystal Meth Cathedral.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 07:15 AM
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23. Or the Crystal Light Cathedral.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 05:59 AM
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19. If they are selling off the glass, I could use a new storm window!
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 06:21 AM
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20. These tears are real. n/t
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 08:50 AM
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24. These are Gawd's salesmen


Telling me Gawd will solve ALL my problems.

Where is their "Gawd" now?


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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 03:18 PM
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25. Yes- turn them into public concert halls
they're perfect for that.
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 07:01 PM
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28. I guess even the televangelists can't make a miracle out of this economy.
Edited on Wed Oct-20-10 07:02 PM by county worker
Everyone touch the radio! Put your hands inside the radio and feel the power. JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESUS!
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