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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 03:50 AM
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Single-Payer Health System Could Save Maine $1 Billion a Year
With health care costs high and rising, state lawmakers are trying to come up with new alternatives incorporating recent federal reform laws. Today in Augusta, a committee heard from a health care expert who says a single-payer system could save a billion dollars in Maine each year.

Click here to listen to the storyhttp://www.mpbn.net/DesktopModules/PDGNews/MediaPlayer.aspx?PDGNewsStoryID=13906&PDGNewsMediaID=2314&TabID=36&ModuleID=3478

Main Public Broadcasting Network
Oct 19, 2010

In the early 1990s, when Taiwan wanted to tackle rising health care costs, it hired economist William Hsiao to come up with a solution. And it was a tall order, Hsiao told the Legislature's Joint Select Committee on Health Care Reform Opportunites and Implementation.

http://www.pnhp.org/news/2010/october/expert-single-payer-health-system-could-save-maine-1-billion-a-year
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 04:20 AM
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1. Yuh think?
Wonder what it would save the federal government?
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 05:31 AM
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2. But each of us....
...lives next door to someone who doesn't want to save money.

They want the Freeeeeeeeeeedom™.

(Freeeeeeeedom™ is a registered trademark of the Republican National Committee. Used with permission. All rights reserved.)
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Jkid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 06:36 AM
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5. And each of us....
...lives next door to someone who don't have health insurance but rather not have any health insurance provided by the government. And they don't want anyone else to have it either.

Besides, "Freedom" is a loaded work in my opinion.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 05:39 AM
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3. Why the unrecs...
K&R
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 06:04 AM
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4. k&r!
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 06:41 AM
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6. If LePage wins - you can kiss that goodbye
yup
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 06:43 AM
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7. He won't have a legislative majority...
...but he could veto such a measure. I'd like to run against a veto, myself....
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Panaconda Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 06:49 AM
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8. K&R n/t
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billlll Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 07:01 AM
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9. 48 nations outlive us - yet we pay more
We are #49.
PS. Eng and Germany get housecalls.

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 07:20 AM
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10. recommend
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Thav Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 07:24 AM
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11. OMG neosociofachist marxist nazism!!!1li1lk1!!!1mogmogomg
Sign me up.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 07:46 AM
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12. That's one billion dollars per year that United Health Care won't get
and since they now decide who wins elections, ....

Good fucking luck.
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billlll Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 10:06 AM
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13. we pay TWICE as much/person as nationalized countries
Edited on Fri Oct-22-10 10:11 AM by billlll

..."reported that Americans spend twice as much on healthcare as residents of other developed countries -- $7,290 per person -- but get lower quality and less efficiency ".



About para 8 at

http://us.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSN0622294120101007?ca=rdt
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 10:31 AM
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14. Save money, and save lives.
Too bad that does't interest the self-identified "pro-lifers" who really don't give a shit about babies dying, much less adults.

Each day, 273 people die due to lack of health care in the U.S.; that's 100,000 deaths per year.

We need single-payer health care, not a welfare bailout for the serial-killer insurance agencies.

We don't need the GingrichCare of mandated, unregulated, for-profit insurance that is still too expensive, only pays parts of medical bills, denies claims, bankrupts and kills people. Republinazi '93 plan:
"Subtitle F: Universal Coverage - Requires each citizen or lawful permanent resident to be covered under a qualified health plan or equivalent health care program by January 1, 2005."


"We will never have real reform until people's health stops being treated as a financial opportunity for corporations."
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 10:32 AM
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15. you mean, subtracting all the profits of middlemen from the cost of the system
and permanently removing the incentive to ever higher and accelerating prices from the paying entity could somehow bring about savings to the overall bottomline? Well, that's a headscratcher right there. I can't see how all those subtractions could actually lead to lower costs. I mean mathematically, sure, a it's simple and self-evident proposition. But economics isn't a math based science! Economics is all about faith in the free market system. Unless you have faith in the Invisible Hand, nothing will come out to the good. You've got to have faith in the Invisible Hand, and obedience to the Hand's earthly vicars and emissaries - our market leaders. Ex venalicium non salvatum est.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 10:33 AM
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16. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, eridani.
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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 03:53 PM
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17. Can they institute Single Payer instead of the Federal program?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 04:00 PM
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18. That's a good question
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 09:19 PM
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19. It would be a big help if we could enact an ERISA waiver n/t
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 04:12 PM
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20. ..
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