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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 05:46 PM
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Until "disposable income" industries complain gas will spiral to $6-7.
Gas prices depends on effected industries whining not consumers, they always whine. Spending on things as latte shops, broadband services, kid cell phones, iPod downloads, cable, full service restaurants, and any of number of non essential services.

So if you want to have an effect withhold your favorite non essential and let them know it because of gas prices.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 05:50 PM
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1. Done.... (some time ago, actually)
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 05:53 PM
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2. Ya know, retail already reported poor quarters...Walmart had record lows
If ANY company in the country was gonna complain, you know it'd be Walmart.

What we don't know is just how one corporate hand is washing the other.
Maybe Big Wallie DID complain and Big Oil said later, pal.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:05 PM
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3. Big Wally is not team player and screwed every parter it had. So even
most industries don't care if they whine or not. I think Lowe's is a better start(disappointing earnings report), because it is a diy market.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:07 PM
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6. Same can be said for Microsoft; didn't stop IBM from going back to work with them again... twice...
:D
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:09 PM
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9. IBM working with MS equals what? n/t
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:20 PM
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15. Their history:
1980 - IBM licenses DOS from Microsoft. IBM was too inept to see that they could sell a used condom with a chip thrown inside and having their name stamped on it and it would become a de facto in the world of computing... The same PC was made from off the shelf, underpowered parts because they did not want their midrange monopoly to be affected. If only they used the Motorola 68000 instead of the puny 8088... but I digress. Microsoft did some slithering of their own to get a product they claimed they already had... but didn't. QDOS, as I recall, is what they bought and repackaged as MS-DOS. It's usually good to have a product ready rather than to make promises of vaporware, but they succeeded. Pity the rest of the industry couldn't do the same thing.

1985 - IBM & Microsoft team up to make the next generation operating system. OS/2. Microsoft, like any sleazy televangelist, ditched IBM once their bit of fluff on the side took off like a hotcake: Windows 3.0. (The divorce gave Microsoft what is known as Windows NT, and IBM got to use Windows 3.0 code in OS/2's Windows emulation... they also had to remove OS/2 32-bit TCP/IP and Device I/O code because that was part of what became windows NT.)

I'll get back to you with their 3rd partnership, it was a few years ago and during that time I was a Linux rebel and didn't give a damn about either company anymore. (No longer a Linux user, thankfully, as that patent spat is going to take a while and none of my most important apps worked under 3rd party Windows emulation anyway...)
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:06 PM
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4. perhaps Big Oil shaved a few prices for WallyWorld
after all -- those factories in China that make petroleum based products to sell at Walmart have to get their oil from somewhere. :shrug:

One hand washes the other.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:08 PM
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8. That's a bit glib...
Walmart does sell products made in the USA, though people often opt for the lower price imports even if they are lesser quality. Even compared to the higher priced ones of better quality, it's the lower price that gets to them, 6 times out of 10.

The name brand stuff (e.g. the $60 black and decker food chopper thingie) is always made in China and seems to be the same price at walmart, target, or anywhere else. :D
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:13 PM
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12. What percentage exactly of Made in the USA does Walmart sell?
The majority of their crap is foreign made.

And I guess it's completely unheard of for walmart, target and everyone else to set prices on the name brand stuff coming from China? :eyes:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:21 PM
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16. Very true.
But it wasn't unfair to say they sell products made int he USA as if they don't or never do.

Whatever.

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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:08 PM
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7. Actually, retail reported the largest drop in sales since 1970 when record-keeping started.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:06 PM
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5. Walmart has already complained.
I will definitely say as you suggest, but Walmart has clout. Of either of us, which one will more likely be listened to. :D


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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:16 PM
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13. When disposable retail like Starbucks and TimeWarner start to complain, is what will effect gas.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:23 PM
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18. But they rely on disposable people to purchase things.
Well, if offshoring doesn't prove anything else, it proves we're disposable.

I sure as hell don't know anymore.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:12 PM
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10. My guess is that somewhere around $5.50 a gallon...
...It will begin to become regressive for some people to work at jobs that don't pay enough to cover the transportation costs plus living expenses. By the time we get to $7 per gallon, the economy will be well on the way to the breaking point.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:12 PM
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11. the entertainment industries still focus on illegal downloading
Little do they seem to realize that once gas prices skyrocket, people won't be as eager to buy CDs and go to movies.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:19 PM
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14. Again this depend mostly on broadband. n/t
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:22 PM
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17. They should go to China.
Didn't 60 Minutes say how one could go to any given street corner in China and buy Spider-Man III for $1?

The anti-piracy people have a point, but the worst of it is by far not occurring in America.
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:23 PM
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19. movies for sure
You can waste gas money to drive out to a theater to pay $10.00 to sit through a bunch of commercials then yet another god-awful TV remake or franchise sequel or popcorn fodder flick. or you can have Netflix or Blockbuster Online deliver you a nice quality DVD you can watch on a nice home theater system with a $0.99 popcorn bag where no obnoxious teens are talking and no cell phones ringing or babies crying.

I'll take the latter thanks.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:35 PM
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20. Yes, it is about spending habits. The gas companies assume you have X dollars to spend
and they want as many of those dollars they can get before it becomes a burden on other companies getting those dollars. So complaining to the gas companies won't do any good until we get other industries to complain also.
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:02 PM
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21. Actually, I hope it DOES go to $7.00 + per gallon
because when it does even the brain damaged 30 odd percent will be screaming for Bush's hide. If that's what it takes to get rid of the little bastard, it works for me.


Impeach the Bastid!

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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:06 PM
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22. Nice to see that you're willing to toss the poor, and a good chunk of the middle class overboard
All in order to make your "point"

Gee, is your nose still attached, or is that gone too?

You don't make points by needlessly increasing the misery of a majority of the population. It is cruel and inhumane.
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:41 PM
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23. I AM one of the poor.
Thank you though, for your self-righteousness.

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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:53 PM
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24. Then go study some basic economics
And find out what happens when those kind of prices hit our economy. Perhaps you are being a bit sarcastic there, I hope so, otherwise you're asking for an economic meltdown that would make the Great Depression look like the Roaring Twenties.

I'm not that well off either, no job and all. That's why I'm pissed at people who make those type of suggestion all for the "good of the country" or whatever bullshit reason.
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:11 PM
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27. Well, you might as well be pissed at me.
People often are. I really don't give a good goddamn anymore. You're just one more among many.

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:55 PM
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25. i could go back to basic cable, i won't need hbo anymore after the last 2 episodes of
the Sopranos anyhow, i've been a subscriber to HBO for 20 years, they'd miss me--oh well.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:00 PM
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26. Or maybe Big Oil will lobby for universal healthcare.
And free cable TV

:shrug:
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