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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 10:43 PM
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Poll question: Are K.O. and E.S. being a little too tough on J.S. and S.C.?
Edited on Mon Nov-01-10 10:44 PM by MrScorpio
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 10:47 PM
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1. A bit... I think the point was that Americans don't live and die by the politicians and pundits.
For the most part we work it out... They need to too. Stop making. Divide. Deliver.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 10:50 PM
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2. given that he wasn't that hard on him
I'd go with no. Mostly used the talking point to discuss what parts he disagreed and what parts of his show he thought were weak and might deserve criticism.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 11:12 PM
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3. No.
Edited on Mon Nov-01-10 11:15 PM by baldguy
False equivalencies are for the lazy & the ignorant. Jon Stewart is better than that - or at least he should be, because he has been in the past.

Keith's anger (and presumably Ed's) was a response to the threat to America posed by Bush, and now by his lineal descendants. That anger happened honestly, and will continue to be expressed as long as the threat continues.

As Keith says: "Sticking up for the powerless as not the moral equivalent of sticking up for the powerful." And when Jon says "Why would you work with Marxists, actively subverting our Constitution? Or racists and homophobes who see no ones humanity but their own?", he misses the point entirely. There are no mainstream Democrats or Liberals who are Marxists, and there are no Democrats or Liberals who want to subvert the Constitution, however you define that. But racism, homophobia & dehumanizing their political enemies defines Republicans and Conservatives. THEY ARE PROUD OF THEIR RACISM, HOMOPHOBIA AND DEHUMANIZATION! and express & promote it every chance they get.

By lumping in the screamers who are telling things he knows to be lies with screamers who tell things he knows to be truths, Jon Stewart fails.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/#39959257
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lbrtbell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 11:31 PM
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4. Not at all
If anything, Stewart and Colbert are way too hard on Keith and Ed.

Stewart has been far more vitriolic in attacking people under the guise of humor. In fact, the last time he attacked Olbermann, Stewart said that Olbermann's attack on Scott Brown was over the top because Brown would be considered an Eastern liberal "faggot" compared to the average Tea Party politician.

Nobody on MSNBC has ever used the word "faggot", in jest or otherwise, to describe anybody. Stewart has no business criticizing Olbermann, Schultz, or anyone else, after that hateful word came from his smirking, holier-than-thou mouth.

If anything, Olbermann played softball by not nominating Stewart as his final Worst Person in the World, playing the "faggot" clip as evidence.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 11:34 PM
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5. It's a good back and forth.
Edited on Mon Nov-01-10 11:35 PM by Radical Activist
I agree with Stewart that ALL the cable news networks are part of the problem, but you have to make a distinction between Keith and Fox. We have to stop eating our own like we've done to Obama.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 11:40 PM
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6. Didn't see Ed, but I thought Keith and Jon Alter had a REASONABLE discussion
Edited on Mon Nov-01-10 11:40 PM by emulatorloo
and there were some interesting points.

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