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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:41 PM
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Sestak (PA) & Giannoulias (IL)
Their leads continue to dwindle as more results come in. Anyone have a take on this?
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:43 PM
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1. Heavily populated blue areas reported first.
Still, for both, the urban/inner suburbs have not completed reporting yet.
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:44 PM
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2. Sestak still holds a 100,000+ vote lead
Nate Silver thinks that Sestak's numbers ought to worry the GOP (though he said that with 15% of the vote in).

Nate Silver also thought Kirk was doing well based on what parts of the state had reported so far (though again this was over a half hour ago, with only half as many votes counted).
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:45 PM
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8. 70,000 vote lead (52 - 48) with 52% reporting
http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:54 PM
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10. Pittsburgh?
Toomey is winning some 44% of the votes in Alleghany County (Pittsburgh)?? What's up with that? I thought Pittsburgh was a solidly-Democratic area.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:44 PM
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3. There are still Dem votes out, esp in PA, they come in differently plus
the GOP have 100k plus to make up
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:44 PM
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votes come in from different regions at different times
the early votes may have come from Democratic areas, subsequent votes from Republican areas. However, the remaining Philadelphia county votes, probably 100,000 margin to Sestak, have yet to come in, the rest of the Philly surburban vote which is for Sestak (though less so than the city) and still a quarter of the vote in Pittsburgh.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:44 PM
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4. Deleting
Edited on Tue Nov-02-10 08:45 PM by otohara
yesterday's CNn
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:45 PM
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6. A day before the election?
CNN is garbage.
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Prism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:45 PM
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5. Cook County tends to report early
Which results in big Dem leads in Illinois. Then the counties surrounding Chicago, more Republican, start coming in, then downstate, very Republican, starts bouncing in.

There will be a tightening. How much, we still don't know.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:58 PM
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13. hey now...not completely Republican downstate. . .
We have pockets in downstate cities that have been pretty solidly Democrat before. . .and I'm pulling for Alexi. . .
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Prism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:26 PM
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17. Very true and worth pointing out
There are some solid islands of blue goodness down there. Thanks for bringing them up.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:45 PM
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7. Watching PA on this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9449084&mesg_id=9451140
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:47 PM
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9. The New York Times shows
Sestak leading 54% to 45% with 44% of the vote in.
The predictably blue counties are in, but so are large swaths of red counties.

http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/results/pennsylvania
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:56 PM
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11. It'll be close for Giannoulias...
whether he can hold on as more of the downstate votes come in remains to be seen.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 08:57 PM
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12. kos states rural (read red) areas report last
will be tough to hang onto the leads. we'll see.
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Efilroft Sul Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:00 PM
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14. Sestak won my suburban Pittsburgh precinct 210-166.
The neighboring precinct had a slightly larger margin for Sestak.

We had excellent weather, and the Democrats came out in force today — at least from where I can see things.
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 09:02 PM
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15. All I know is that...
there are 55,000 Green Party votes that could have gone towards Giannoulias in IL. I'm happy where there is a libertarian third party candidate. I don't like the two party system, but as long as we have it, liberal third parties are just dumb.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:11 PM
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16. Now Sestak is behind?
Edited on Tue Nov-02-10 10:12 PM by drm604
Toomey 1,720,212 50%

Sestak 1,704,922 50%

80% reporting

Damn stupid PA rednecks! :banghead:
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:34 PM
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18. We didn't get enough liberals to the polls....
...to win PA, we have to win Philadelphia by at least a 300,000-vote margin. We fell short of that tonight. Plus we were dealing with the fact this is 2010, which we knew would be a disaster for us. At least the good news is that PA is still a winnable state for us which we should carry in 2012.

Still, I am very, very disappointed.
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