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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:16 PM
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My suggestion when the House sends a Health Care bill to the Senate:
Michelle Bachmann predicts that the health care law will be undone. I suggest that we use their bills to make health care better!

When the House sends the bill to the Senate, the Senate should add amendments to improve our health care and meet the House committee in conference. Obviously, the House won't agree to any changes, so their bill will die in conference. It won't be the Democrats fault. Dump it on Boehner!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:20 PM
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1. Not a bad idea.
We have to be creative with the new freak House, but I think we can beat them because they are generally idiots.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:21 PM
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2. They wont' send a health care bill anywhere cause they know it will be stopped and vetoed.
Watch - they're just as spineless as the Dems for holding up their promises.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:34 PM
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5. No, they're way at the other end of the spectrum -- the thugs have a lot of gall & they would do it.
Edited on Tue Nov-02-10 11:35 PM by pacalo
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:51 PM
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7. Nah, they've backed themselves into a corner with the whole "lower taxes" thing.
In order for them to get anything done at this point, they would have to raise taxes. To do ANYTHING they would have to raise taxes. Anything health care or anything else. They literally can't raise taxes before 2012 or the tea party is going to go ballastic on them, so they're stuck sucking their thumbs.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:11 AM
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14. I believe they would make cuts to Medicare & Social Security before
they would take away the top 2%'s tax freebies. I need no further convincing at how cold & selfish they can be.

If the thugs had their way, people who do manual work for a living wouldn't be able to retire until they're way past the age when the human body starts breaking down.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:53 PM
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9. no! the knowledge that nothing they propose will become law liberates them to propose CRAP!
they will propose to repeal the health care reform entirely, knowing it has not a chance in hell of passing, but knowing that it lets them claim they tried and the the democrats are the ones insisting on keeping the mandates and death panels and all that crap.

they'll also propose to ban flag-burning or other similar crap issues. lots of stuff purely for political theater, none if it for actual governance.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:30 PM
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3. Brilliant idea. The Senate is indeed the better house to have a majority.
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:41 PM
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6. Thanks! I would rather take their bill and make it better from our viewpoint.
Then we force them to compromise. Obviously, Boehner loses any credibility if he backs down on anything.

They of course want the Democrats to take their bill and reject it, so they can parade around the country telling America how bad the Democrats are. I say: play their game. They made the promises, we didn't.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:59 PM
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12. Love it! Listening to McCaskell tonight, I think the Democrats in Washington
now realize that they have to improve their communication to the American people. If they can do that, the Republicans' criticism won't be effective except for their clueless diehard base.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:55 PM
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11. yes. we've done so much with it so far n/t
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:04 AM
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13. Now the Democrats in the Senate are going to *have* to stand up to the House.
That would seem the natural reflex, but I'm only supposing optimistically, I admit. We'll just have to wait & see what the new dynamics will be.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:33 PM
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4. Undone is better.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:52 PM
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8. First the Republicans will have to have a blood bath within their caucus.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:53 PM
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10. There won't be any health care bills in the next two years
Unless some scared Senators run with the GOP'ers to put something through that the President can veto. Since most of the benefits of this year's HCR won't show up until 2014, there's still a good chance that voters will crucify both Democratic Senators and President Obama in 2012.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 09:27 AM
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15. Obviously you are not familiar with how the Senate works ...
under Harry Reid. Or how the Republicans work under Satan.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 09:33 AM
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16. I know how it's worked under Reid in the past. He's probably ticked now, though,
and he's not up for re-election for another six years. Maybe things will get interesting.
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