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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:55 AM
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I wonder if the white house will blame the professional left for tonight's losses
and ignore the fact that their centrist/rightward capitulation had as much to do with this as Citizen's United.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:56 AM
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1. Ok does a bear shit in the woods?
There, I said it...

Hippy punching to commence...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:57 AM
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2. No, maybe the economy had something to do with it.
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 12:58 AM by babylonsister
:eyes: The left had nothing to do with these results. But nice flamebait.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:04 AM
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12. And Thus The Blame Game Begins...
...as if we weren't expecting it.

:hi:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:05 AM
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13. You got that right; didn't take long either.
:hi: :hug:
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 08:30 AM
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24. we would not be having this conversation if the economy was
better. there were no scandals and basically the dems did a good job with the budget. most of what the repugs were screaming about was tarp and stimulus and those appeared to be taking care of themselves. it was the poor economy that killed us.
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left coaster Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:58 AM
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3. Unrec. Flame off. nt
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:01 AM
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9. Kick and rec'd. Truth ON. n/t
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:00 AM
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4. No, they won't
But you are welcome to believe whatever you want to believe.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:00 AM
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5. I wonder if people who spent the last two years campaigning against Obama
will enjoy the fruits of their labors.
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:00 AM
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6. No. The President's Party historically loses seats in the midterms.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:12 AM
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18. and we would still have both houses if they had followed bill
clinton's path. man this is so freakin crazy that they don't see this. it's the economy stupid (not anyone on du), dem leadership should have that down pat by now.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:47 AM
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21. BClinton lost both houses of Congress in 1994; is that the path you're referring to?
In 1994, Rs picked up a net gain of 53 seats in the House and 7 in the Senate; the Democrats losing control of both houses of Congress.

President Obama on the other hand held the Senate and that's pretty f*ucking huge on its own and certainly comparatively.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 08:24 AM
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23. yeah, but he came pretty damn close to losing both, and don't
think for a minute the repugs aren't trying to make deals to get people to flip in the senate. and don't forget what president clinton was pushing for during those first two years.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:00 AM
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7. Wait till the President's press conf. tomorrow when he announces (of his meeting with Boehner):
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 01:01 AM by Poll_Blind
"I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country."

If something like that comes to pass and, honestly, I've heard weirder things come out of Obama's mouth, if that comes to pass that will pretty much seal the deal for me. I'm not sure what deal and what would be sealed, but it sure as hell would be sealed all the same.

PB
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:01 AM
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8. Hey I voted straight 'D'
Don't tread on me. ;)
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highprincipleswork Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:02 AM
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10. New Rule
New Rule -
When your policies make the Tea Party seem like a reasonable choice -
THEY SUCK!!!

Move along. No three-dimensional chess game here, unless three-dimensional chess means losing a lot.

Just your average cave-in.

Al Gore lost - too tepid.
John Kerry - too tepid.
Barack Obama - trying to be the tepid, compromising master.

Let's face it, only Bill Clinton can triangulate and truly appear to win, and even that charade lost its luster long ago.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:06 AM
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14. No, not "tepid" - undermined and kneecapped
A political party cannot win when it's being bashed by both its opponents AND its supporters.
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highprincipleswork Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:13 AM
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26. without supporters
I'd say it cannot win without supporters, or without delivering to supporters something akin to what they want and what has been promise, nor can they win without communicating to much of anybody concrete benefits they have created and principled beliefs they go by.

This administration didn't deliver what they promised.
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highprincipleswork Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:18 AM
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29. and yes
and yes, way tepid, in my opinion. tepid beyond my wildest dreams.
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devereaux Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:07 AM
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15. Attack like Truman
He knew how to lay the wood on the Republicans
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highprincipleswork Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:15 AM
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27. True - Better Heroes.
True, and I sure with President Obama had a better list of people to emulate. Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton do not inspire much confidence in me, seeing as how the first one led to all the propaganda and lousy thinking that has helped destroy the country for almost thirty years and the second one did IMO so much to sell us down the river, even while making it semi-palatable at the time.

F.D.R. and Truman, those would be the heroes I would choose.

Oh, and been enjoying a lot of Frank Capra movies recently.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:09 AM
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16. FWIW: Gore didn't lose. n/t
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highprincipleswork Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:18 AM
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28. Let's put it this way
Let's put it this way, I certainly know that. But he did his tepid best to make it close enough that a few shenanigans could bring it within a questionable call, whereupon it was in fact stolen.

Fighting Democrats - that's what I want to see. Democrats that stand for something and do not back down.

Perhaps with so many Blue Dogs gone and the Progressive Caucus pretty much intact, we will be able to see some inspiring solidarity for a change.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:03 AM
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11. well we usually get blamed for everything
:-(
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:10 AM
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17. More whining wedge-driving
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:14 AM
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19. I think they better tread lightly
We of the professional left are in no mood to be toyed with.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:20 AM
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20. Dumbass flamebait.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:50 AM
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22. Flamebait. nt
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 08:31 AM
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25. he has gotten more progressive law passed than in a very long time. but truly... ignore all that
and fabricate a false statement.
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