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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:21 PM
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Poll question: Should Tim Kaine be FIRED as Democratic Party chair?
Seriously, when Howard Dean was in that position, he made a lot of races competitive that otherwise wouldn't have been, and primarily by making voters and party activists feel like they were heard and involved in the process, as opposed to the DLC method or courting corporate donors and talking down to the party base (essentially aping how the GOP does things).

Should we tell Obama it's time to take out the rest of the DLC garbage, starting symbolically with someone who could have used his job to get a very different outcome yesterday?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:22 PM
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1. You need a FUCK YEAH
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:23 PM
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2. Unanimous so far
I saw someone defending him here last night but just one person. Kaine is a flop. Useless.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:23 PM
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3. BRING BACK DEAN! BRING BACK DEAN! BRING BACK DEAN! TO THE D-N-C!
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:48 PM
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14. I couldn't agree more! (nt)
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:23 PM
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4. I was actually just going to ask who his replacement would be.
I think I'll do that now.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:24 PM
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5. Of course. eom
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:25 PM
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6. i'D RATHER HAVE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM.
Sorry for the capslock, I'm too exhausted to change it. :blush:
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:25 PM
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7. No one could do a WORSE job than Kaine,
so there's really no risk involved in making a change.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:25 PM
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8. No one could do a WORSE job than Kaine,
so there's really no risk involved in making a change.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:30 PM
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9. Please bring back Dean...
I'm serious.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:48 PM
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12. Excellent idea. (nt)
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:30 PM
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10. Dean or Grayson Would Be Far Better
We need someone more grassroots oriented and vision to fight rigorously for democratic principles and not DLC goals and the DINOs
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:46 PM
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11. Grayson would make the DLCers shit themselves even more than Dean did
which is why he would be a good idea.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:29 PM
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17. I'd prefer Grayson run from a safer district.
We do not need him heading the DNC, though I like him...
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 04:19 PM
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21. Imagine if he had been the Democrat up against Rubio & Crist.
One or both of them would have run home crying to mama well before election day.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:48 PM
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15. DINO's need to join their real life party and GTFO
They do harm. Real harm.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:39 PM
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20. DINO's are DINO's for one of two reasons: 1) they can't win as Republicans
2) like Papa Bush they lack the stomach or acting ability to suck up to religious nuts and racist redneck ignoramuses.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:48 PM
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13. Hell fuck yes
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:03 PM
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16. Not that it will make any difference but voting yes made me feel good. nt
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nyc 4 Biden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:30 PM
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18. k&r
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:31 PM
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19. The state standardized test say YES!
He didn't hit the bar. Not by a long shot. Maybe we should hire a "consultant"?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 04:21 PM
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22. Many young Dems here are calling for new party leadership.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 04:24 PM
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23. Yes ! k*r
He didn't deliver as governor of Virginia and failed to nix a truly awful candidate for governor
who was assured to lose. By the 2009 statewide election, the 1.95 million Obama 2008 voters had
shrunk to 0.8 mil for the Democratic candidate. That's pathetic. That's his legacy.

Who had the bright idea of putting him in there in the first place?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 04:25 PM
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24. No, he should resign.
I really don't think he is the problem or even on the list of the top 10 problems. But his style doesn't work for that job.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 04:27 PM
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25. Without delay n/t
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TNLib Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 04:31 PM
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26. Howard Dean and the GOP Know how to win elections
It's all about the BASE!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:46 PM
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27. the DLC knows how to hoover up corporate money and that's about it
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:48 PM
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28. If he had any sense of honor at all, he would resign of his own accord. n/t
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:59 PM
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29. If you believe that Democrats lost so many seats
because of the candidates or their campaign, then Kaine should absolutely be fired.

If you think the Dems lost so many seats because of other factors (the economy, jobs, Chamber of Commerce money, etc...) then it's not as easy to tell if he did a good job or not.

While Kaine could have done a better job, it's hard for me to lay all the losses at his feet.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:01 PM
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30. i wouldnt lay all of it at his feet, but Dean did a much better job of using the position to rally
The base.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:08 PM
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31. Dean never should have been forced out.
I don't agree with him all the time, but damn was he effective in that position....
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:10 PM
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32. Dean or Grayson should have that job, they have guts and vision.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:15 PM
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33. Dean or Grayson, Kaine was mister mellow, zippity do dah...
don't worry, be happy....really?!
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