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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:47 PM
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This wasn't defeat!
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 02:49 PM by DFab420
Why are so many of us bawling about our defeat at the hands of the republicans?

Did they take the senate? No

Did they take the White House? Pretty sure it's still under Democratic control

Did they take the lesser chamber? Yes, and now when nothing gets through the congress, which was actually passing tons of measures this past 2 years, it will be on the republican heads.

Beltway common knowledge is that when the midterms come up in a post presidential election, whom ever the president's party was, loses seats in the senate and congress. We lost 60 or so congressional seats. There are laws in place to protect against Gerrymandering, THIS IS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD!

SO please, if you really think this was a hard hit, then you weren't really ready for the fight to begin with.

Stand proud progressives. Stand proud Democrats. We held the senate. We had a good amount of governorships go our way. Hold your head up high, and walk off the gut shot.

There is still work to be done, and now, at least the scumbags are in the spotlight.

This is not the end, but merely a new beginning. Fight on .
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:48 PM
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1. :facepalm:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:25 PM
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20. recommend
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:49 PM
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2. And in other news, did you know the Texas Rangers won the World Series?
After all, the weren't shut out in the last game. VICTORY!!!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:49 PM
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3. This was a triumph. I'm writing a note here, 'huge success.' It's hard to overstate my satisfaction.



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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:49 PM
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4. Ummm, you think conservatives care about "laws"? Really? I'm more disappointed in lack of ground...
...game from DNC and Tim Kaine.

Dean was getting results
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:50 PM
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5. It's but a flesh wound.
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 02:50 PM by Ian David



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BlueCheese Donating Member (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:55 PM
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9. All right, we'll call it a draw. n/t
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:51 PM
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6. it was a thumpin'
time to wake up to it.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:53 PM
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7. dupe
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 02:53 PM by QC
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:54 PM
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8. It wasn't a surprise either, except to those who view realty as to what they wish would happen. n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:57 PM
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11. No and the majority is not that wide
there is more... they have this issue that we had last time around. Instead of blue dogs they have TEA... that promises to be it's own entertainment.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:56 PM
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10. Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!



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sweetapogee Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:06 PM
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12. my district
PA

My Governor was D now R
One of my Senators was D now R
My Congressmen was D now R
My State Senator was R, still R
My State Rep was D (speaker of the house) now R

What do you call this if not defeat?
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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:09 PM
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13. my district
CA

Governer was R now D
Senator stayed D
LT. Gov Was R now D
Congresswoman stayed D
most of the state legislator. D

What do you call this if not victory?
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sweetapogee Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:18 PM
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15. ok, but
My state was 85% D before yesterday, now it's 100% R
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BlueCheese Donating Member (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:24 PM
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18. But what about...
... the water district supervisors? Huh? Huh???
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sweetapogee Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:25 PM
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19. Now I have to go
to dog catcher and shade tree commission to find a D.
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Fla_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:30 PM
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24. NPA
No Party Affiliation :evilgrin:


:smoke:
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End Of The Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:16 PM
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14. I'm not sure you get it.
The Republican win was HUGE, because it included the taking of around 20 state legislatures (not sure we have an accurate count yet).

State legislatures are in charge of redistricting (usually after a census, but varies from state to state, I think).

And guess what those legislatures are gonna do now?

They are going to draw up redistricting plans that will make it more difficult for us to be heard at the polls for YEARS TO COME.

Sorry, but this isn't just about losing the House.
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NavyDavy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:22 PM
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17. and when they screw things up at state level we will get those back
also
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End Of The Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:26 PM
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21. Eventually, yes.
But this kind of thing isn't a four-year cycle.

We're easily looking at 10-20.

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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:28 PM
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22. Yes true but
If you look at many of those states, such as FL. and OH. they also have passes legislation, either this election or last. That helps control and protect the process of redistricting.

Gerrymanding is also illegal , and since when did any government movement happen without watchdog groups. What we will need to do is watch these states, and make sure stacking/cracking or any other type of vote manipulation doesn't take place.

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End Of The Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:33 PM
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25. Gerrymandering and redistricting are not the same.
And states CAN redistrict in such a way to effectively minimize the impact of the opposing party.

That is precisely what Tom Delay & Friends did in Texas. Legally.
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NavyDavy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:20 PM
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16. I don't see as bad as the MSM was saying it was going to be....
we kept the senate and we got rid of alot of DINOS....so 2012 when the repukes fail we will take back the reins!!!
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:28 PM
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23. Good thing those laws are in place to "protect against Gerrymandering"!
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:44 PM
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26. Okay, who's got a picture of the Black Knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail? n/t
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