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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:10 PM
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Poll question: There's A Theory Going Around, That It Was Liberal Negativism That Cost Us The House
Do you agree, or disagree?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:12 PM
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1. Liberals are positive, not negative
We believe in doing what's been proven to work. We believe in the 97%, not in the 3%.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:12 PM
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2. Yeah, but with good reason.
It didn't just spring from nothing.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:13 PM
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3. That's dumb
Where's the theory being promulgated?
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:15 PM
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5. Close By...
:shrug:
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:17 PM
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7. Which makes it dumber.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:29 PM
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10. LOL !!! - Shhh...
:hide::hi::hide:
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:13 PM
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4. with a few exceptions it was the republican wannabees that got voted out nt
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:17 PM
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6. ABSOLUTELY. Liberal caucus in the house is big and strong.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:20 PM
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8. Its a combination of things but the fact that many liberal commentators
talk radio personalities etc said that the president was doing enough....not doing things fast enough, etc... (without acknowledging that fact that all good legisltation went to the senate and was never brought to the floor for a vote because we never had a true majority in the Senate) caused people who don't know better and dont understand civics to sit on their hands and not vote. People can be led on both sides of the spectrum...

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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:03 PM
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37. Because it's the duty of liberal commentators to be propagandists, apparently. eom
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:24 PM
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9. Of course not
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:31 PM
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11. It was democracy that cost us the House.
People voted for what they wanted, and now they will have to deal with it - and so will we. Shitty, but them's the breaks.

If they voted in a way we don't like (and they sure as hell did), then maybe we failed to get our message out. I generally despise the "personal responsibility" slogan, but this is one instance where it may fit.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:32 PM
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12. Yup. It was the stunning lack of pom-poms instead of half-assed compromises and bipartisanship.
They just needed bigger megaphones for people to shout "Go Team" instead of actually standing firm on the issues.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:53 PM
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14. ...
:spray:

:hi:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:55 PM
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15. --------
:spray:
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 07:43 PM
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36. ***
:spray:

Me too.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:41 PM
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13. Ludicrous.
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 05:41 PM by BlueIris
I wonder if they'll blame us for what happens next? Probably. And good luck with that, fuck-oes.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:59 PM
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16. I blame the economy and communication mostly.
I think the negativity probably cost us something, but not enough to take away the House.
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:01 PM
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17. Yes and No
Yes, if dissatisfaction is the reason that the negative liberals didn't show up to vote.

No, if anyone thinks they had any influence on conservative voters..
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:06 PM
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19. Yep
And the fact that they got more conservative voters to go vote.

Do progressives have power to make people go vote? Haven't seen much evidence of that.

Did big money have the power to get people to go vote? Yep, lots of evidence there.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:04 PM
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18. The economy is the main culprit..
but apparently pointing fingers is much more fun...
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:12 PM
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20. Wow. That sounds like a really flaky theory with no facts to back it up.
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 06:15 PM by pa28
You must have been trolling around in one of the dungeons to find something that absurd.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:17 PM
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23. Um... That Little Red Line Up Top With The 30% Next To It...
Says that so far in this poll, 30% of DUers agree with that flaky theory.

I ain't one of them, but... just sayin.

:shrug:
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:29 PM
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29. Sometimes the angry fringe votes first.
I'll be interested to see how your poll turns out but I'm guessing anybody who actually believes that lives in a pretty dark corner.

:dem:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:32 PM
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32. Oh You'd Be Surprised...
:shrug:

:hi:
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Plantaganet Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:15 PM
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21. Ah - back to Agnew/Safire, then.
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 06:15 PM by Plantaganet
"Nattering nabobs of negativism..."

Waaaaaaaay too Republican for me.

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:28 PM
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28. LOL !!! - Welcome To DU, Plantaganet !!!
:toast::bounce::toast:

Glad ta have ya aboard !!!

:hi:

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Plantaganet Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 07:17 PM
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35. Thanks!
:fistbump:
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:15 PM
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22. What could Liberals possibly have to be negative about?
Obama and Democrats did every progressive thing in the world.....D'Oh
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:17 PM
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24. Of course. That's it!
It couldn't possibly that we are still engaged in a hostile military economy. And the so-called health care fiasco couldn't possibly be a factor (I'm down with the Kucinich plan). And the fact that the Department of Homeland Security wasn't immediately dismantled must not be the culprit. It couldn't be about the Patriot Acts I and II not having been rescinded.

Every infamy perpetrated by the Bush administration should have been summarily reversed, including all of the execrable "signing statements."

Charges of treason should have been laid upon many of the Bush administration. Dov Zackheim, for example, should be forced to account for -- what?-- 2. something trillion dollars?

Bah! Liberal Negativism, indeed!!! I'll give them hell and call it Liberal Negativism!
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:18 PM
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25. what a repugnant claim to make... after what we on the left have endured
being right and then chastised for it, is pretty infuriating. The very people who are destroying this party are the ones making that very claim. Unprincipled, corrupt minds that settle for less because in reality, they live pretty well, while the rest of us struggle everyday to makes ends meet.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:19 PM
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26. Bad Communication Strategy
The reason the Democrats lost the House was a bad communication strategy on the part of President Obama and the Democratic Party. President Obama and the Democratic Party did not do enough to explain to people the things that had been done and the results of those actions. Also, the administration did not push back against the notion that the TARP bailout was started under President Obama. According to one poll 40+% of the population thinks the TARP bailout started under the Obama Admininstration, not the Bush Administration. Also, President Obama did not defend the American car industry bailout. By the time the elections came around a number of the individuals who had opposed the car industry bailout stated that they now support the car bailout and that Obama made the right decision by bailing out the industry. The Economist magazine actually apologized the President Obama for opposing the car industry bailout. However, I do not think anyone from President Obama's staff pointed that out.

http://www.economist.com/node/16846494/comments%20Health%20care%20holding%20down%20costs:%20http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/107xx/doc10781/11-30-Premiums.pdf
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:19 PM
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27. That's not a theory; it's a DLC meme.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:31 PM
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30. Nuff Said, Eh ???
:thumbsup::thumbsup:

:hi:
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:32 PM
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31. It's the economy n/t
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gort Donating Member (567 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:33 PM
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33. The Grumpy Old Man vote was energized
And the DCCC abandoned Dean's 50 state strategy. That's why we lost, but I have faith in the end the truth will win.

We need more fighters. Not compromisers.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:37 PM
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34. LMFAO... Yeah.. learning about personal responsibility
from the Republicans I see. So far I have seen the gays blamed, I have seen the "whiners" blamed, I have seen everyone blamed but the FUCKING DEMOCRATS WHO'S ENTIRE ELECTION STRATEGY WAS: "WE DON'T SUCK AS BAD AS THEY DO".

Then the day after the loss I see Republicans in the press yelling about how many subpoena's they are going to lay out, how their top priority is to get rid of Obama, how they are willing to work with Democrats as long as Democrats see fit to cave in to Republican demands.

And I see Obama talking about working together with the Republicans.

I'm starting to wonder if he isn't a complete moron. Or maybe it's battered wife syndrome. Whatever it is he better pull his head out of his ass and start toughening up.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:21 PM
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38. Who revived Spiro Agnew and Bill Safire?
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:32 PM
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39. Can't Say...
Might be deemed a call-out.

:hide::scared::hide:

:hi:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 11:24 AM
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40. Kick !!!
:kick:
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 11:38 AM
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41. It's the RW 'dems' spreading it, so consider the source.
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