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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:03 PM
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Rachel's Smooth Touch Nailed The Brass AND Fox At The Same Time
brilliant. simply brilliant.


destroying the brass for being stupid.


and showing how no one can compare the news reporting to fox's outright propaganda.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:09 PM
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1. Um, don't forget that body slam of Jon Stewart as well!
:evilgrin:
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:11 PM
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2. yup
I love jon stewart but he was wrong to compare big ed and KO to hannity and beck.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:19 PM
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6. Or anyone making that false equivalency, but in doing so she supported
MSNBC's policy and thereby KO's temporary suspension. After listening to her, I agree with her. He knew the rules, it's good those rules are there and show that MSNBC is not the equivalent to Fox, and it's good that KO inadvertently brought the proof to the surface.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:54 PM
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9. Yes indeed.
"Here's the larger point, though, that's going mysteriously missing from the right-wing cackling and old media cluck-cluck-clucking: I know everyone likes to say, "Oh, cable news, it's all the same. Fox and MSNBC -- mirror images of each other. But if you look at the long history of Fox hosts not just giving money to candidates, but actively endorsing campaigns and raising millions of dollars for politicians and political parties -- whether it's Sean Hannity or Glenn Beck or Mike Huckabee -- and you'll see that we can lay that old false equivalency to rest forever. There are multiple people being paid by Fox News to essentially run for office as Republican candidates. If you count not just their hosts but their contributors, you're looking at a significant portion of the entire Republican lineup of potential contenders for 2012.

They can do that because there's no rule against that at Fox. Their network is run as a political operation. Ours isn't. Yeah, Keith's a liberal, and so am I. But we're not a political operation -- Fox is. We're a news operation. The rules around here are part of how you know that.

Back before it was politically safe to do it, Keith Olbermann attracted the ire of the right-wing and a lot of others besides when he brought to light and raged against what he saw as the errors and sins of the previous presidential administration. Keith was also the one who brought to light Fox News's water-carrying for the Bush Administration; he was the one whose point-of-view journalism exposed and put exclamation points on the problems of disguising a political operation as a news one, the model embraced by the guys across Sixth Avenue, at Fox.

Now, weirdly, it is Keith who is once again illustrating the difference between what he does at MSNBC -- what we do here -- and what goes on across the street."

http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/11/05/5417114-on-cable-news-and-cable-not-news



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I'm sure Jon will have a good laugh about it though.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:12 PM
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3. She's always brilliant. She is the master of keeping a cool
head and plowing through the bullshit to get to the facts.
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:14 PM
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4. She gave all indication that Keith would be back...
and Rachel is never wrong because she does and is doing her homework.

Stay with it Rachel!!!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:15 PM
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5. she is a rhodes scholar.....
they teach them well in england
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:21 PM
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7. True but she wouldn't have made it to Oxford if she hadn't excelled
in California.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:26 PM
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8. Iron Fist, Velvet Glove b/w Fire Phil Griffin
No direct attacks on the brass (i.e., Phil Griffin), just an objective comparison of policies along with the reiteration of a strong KO point -- that MSNBC isn't equal to Fox but with liberal hosts.

That chick is good.

Griffin is going to be doing a lot of damage control. When a corporate boss steps on the neck of a speaker for people who distrust corporate bosses, it means he's showing everybody "just who's Boss around this joint". This will be Griffin's third pound of flesh: Schuster, Schultz, and now Olbermann.

We actually should call for the appropriate reprimand of Keith Olbermann, perhaps a three-day suspension. Even if he was unaware of the directive, or its context, the mistake has to be addressed. I'm sure KO understands this.

And then, we should demand that Griffin be fired on the grounds of maliciously orchestrating the public humiliation of several of his journalists. He is an abusive boss and obviously has no idea how to lead a news team through political, financial, and ethical shoals and straits. Abuse and incompetence are not usually qualities that lead to the success of any enterprise.

Let the punishment fit the crime: Issue a warning to Olbermann. Issue walking papers to Griffin.

--d!
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Marie Marie Donating Member (709 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 10:19 PM
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10. She handled the whole issue beautifully.
She is a class act - top to bottom!!
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