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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 01:22 PM
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Marine Corps Attempts to Stifle IVAW Free Speech- Please help!!
Edited on Wed May-23-07 01:58 PM by Breeze54
E-mail from: Kelly Dougherty <kelly@ivaw.org>
Date: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:22 PM
To: Breeze
Subject: Marine Corps Attempts to Stifle IVAW Free Speech

Dear IVAW Supporter,

I am writing to let you know about an urgent issue that is affecting several of our IVAW members.

Adam Kokesh and Liam Madden are both very active members and former Marines.

Because of their outspoken opposition to the war, the Marine Corps is threatening to revoke
their honorable discharges and change them to other than honorable.

We cannot allow this suppression of free speech to occur!

Adam and Liam need our help to pay for legal defense and travel to their hearings.

Adam just found out his hearing is in Kansas City on June 4th, less than two weeks away!

Attached below is a letter from Adam, describing his situation and asking for your help.

Besides financial contributions, we also need people who are in the Kansas City area
to gather support for Adam before his June 4th hearing.

Please contact me at Kelly@ivaw.org if you are in the area and would like to find out how you can help.

I will keep you updated on both Adam and Liam's cases as they unfold.

Thank you so much for your time and support,

it really means everything to our veterans who dare to speak the truth.

In Peace,
Kelly Dougherty
Former Sergeant Army National Guard
Executive Director
Iraq Veterans Against the War


Dear Friend of Iraq Veterans Against the War,

My name is Adam Kokesh and I need your help. Because of my involvement in IVAW,
I have been singled out and called for a military hearing to be made an example of for those of us
who have spoken out against the war. I have been an active member of IVAW for a mere four months,
but have already garnered enough attention to be perceived as a threat by those using our military
to maintain political support for the occupation of Iraq.

I was honorably discharged after serving over six years, and two tours in Iraq, last November.

I am part of the Inactive Ready Reserve until June 18, 2007, less than a month away.
After my discharge, I moved to Washington, DC to get a Masters in Political Management at GWU,
and joined IVAW. I have since appeared on behalf of IVAW speaking at concerts, universities,
and high schools. I have written about my views on the occupation and my military experience
for the IVAW website and on my blog.

Most notably, I participated in Operation First Casualty on March 19th.
This was a mock combat patrol through Washington, DC in order to bring home the truth
of the occupation of Iraq, because the first casualty of war is the truth. I appeared
in my uniform, without my name, without rank, and without the patch that says US MARINES.
I received an email of warning about possible violations of the UCMJ for appearing in
uniform at a political event. Instead of ignoring it like everyone I know who has received
similar emails, I wrote a strongly worded reply admonishing the Major who was "investigating"
me for wasting time on such trivial matters. The text of that email is posted here.

I soon received a package from the Marine Corps informing me of a separation hearing to
re-separate me with an Other Than Honorable Discharge.
A scan of the complete package can
be seen here. I have sought private counsel for this hearing, as is my right. I intend to
bring as many witnesses as possible to testify to both the character of my service and the
nature of my involvement with IVAW.

The Marine Corps only made it known to us today that

the hearing will be held on June 4, in a mere 13 days!!



They have also decided to activate me for the hearing and hold it in Kansas City,
home of the Marine Corps Mobilization Command.


This case is important because the intimidation of servicemen and women who speak out will
suppress the truth about the Iraq occupation. With the help of IVAW, I intend to fight this
to the end and stand up for the rights of all members of our armed forces.

Please support this effort by mailing a check made out to:

IVAW with "Adam Kokesh Legal Defense Fund" in the memo to PO Box 8296, Philadelphia, PA 19101
or by going here, clicking on "Donate Now" and including "Adam Kokesh Legal Defense Fund" in
the Special Project Support window.


Please feel free to email me with any questions or comments.

Sincerely,


Adam Kokesh
adam@ivaw.org
kokesh.blogspot.com


:wtf: For using his free Speech??
Other Than Honorable Discharge??? He's already discharged!!
I don't have a lot of money at all but this requires urgent help!
So, I'm sending $10.00. Can you help too?? $5.00 or $10.00??


http://www.ivaw.org/

IVAW Brings the GI Anti-War Movement to Germany: Member Adam Kokesh Gives A First-Hand Account
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtNEo4SMlIg
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 01:25 PM
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1. I can send something next week. K&R
:mad:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 01:30 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Thanks sfexpat2000! This is outrageous!!!
:grr: :nuke:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 01:31 PM
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3. You know it! It's blackmail, pure and simple. n/t
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 01:36 PM
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4. I just wrote Kelly a note
I'm in Kansas City and I'd be glad to come out to show support. I also gave her the link to the Kansas City Iraq Task Force, although doubtless they've already contacted them.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 01:41 PM
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6. Thank You Neecy!!!
:woohoo: :yourock:

I guess you'll need to make a sign. Can you share this with some local anti-war activists?

I wonder if someone could also help by sharing frequent flier miles maybe....



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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 01:42 PM
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8. I sure will
I'll share this with my MoveOn group, and I think several members here are involved with the KCITF. I'll pass along the date/time/place when I find out.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #4
22. We emailed him today.
Thanks Neecy!
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 01:38 PM
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5. If they are "activating" him for this hearing
does that mean, with the stop loss order they can now extend his term?

What are the implications of this?
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 01:42 PM
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9. I'm not sure ThomCat but they seem to make up the rules
and change them as they go along. Perhaps you could e-mail him? Them??

I haven't gone to their website yet today. Maybe that info is posted there. :shrug:
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 01:41 PM
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7. Fear of this is one reason I've been as timid
about speaking out as I have.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. Are you active military?
I can understand your apprehension but he's been discharged already!

We can't let them intimidate us from speaking out, imho!

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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 01:50 PM
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11. I still have 14 months Inactive Ready Reserve time.
Edited on Wed May-23-07 01:57 PM by genie_weenie
So, my fear has been a simple proposition.

speak out against the "War", get recalled and go back to iraq again.

Edit: Sorry Acronym speak is one of the loathsome coils of the Corpse I am trying to shuffle off.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 01:52 PM
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12. Sorry, but what is IRR time? n/t
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 01:59 PM
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13. IRR = Inactive Ready Reserve
Edited on Wed May-23-07 02:35 PM by Breeze54
And his (Adam Kokesh) is supposed to end June 18th!!

"I am part of the Inactive Ready Reserve until June 18, 2007, less than a month away."
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. Thank you. My God, find some way to support this effort
without putting yourself in danger. We need you alive and home.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:56 PM
Response to Reply #11
16. Know Your Rights!
We are a network of nonprofit, nongovernmental organizations who provide information
to servicemembers about military discharges, grievance and complaint procedures,
and other civil rights. http://girights.objector.org/

http://www.objector.org/girights/links.html
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:54 PM
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15. kick and recommend
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:07 PM
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18. Thanks!
Edited on Wed May-23-07 03:09 PM by Breeze54
For the :kick: :patriot:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:06 PM
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17. kick
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:16 PM
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19. You're to cool!
;) :patriot:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:19 PM
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20. We don't forget, we don't give up, we don't go away.
:hi:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #20
35. Bet your ass we won't forget, give up or go away!
;)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:23 PM
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21. I got this yesterday in an email
and sent it out to all my peeps here in KC. If any of you hear from this guy, please PM me. We want to know what we can do for him when he gets to KC. What does he need?
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:39 PM
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24. He needs a way to get to KC and $$ for his Legal Defense!
Adam and Liam need our help to pay for legal defense and travel to their hearings.

Adam just found out his hearing is in Kansas City on June 4th, less than two weeks away!

Attached below is a letter from Adam, describing his situation and asking for your help.

Besides financial contributions, we also need people who are in the Kansas City area

to gather support for Adam before his June 4th hearing.

Please contact me at Kelly@ivaw.org

if you are in the area and would like to find out how you can help.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:40 PM
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25. That's the same email I got
I am asking what kind of support he needs from us here in KC.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:41 PM
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27. Demonstrators? Sign holders?
Edited on Wed May-23-07 03:43 PM by Breeze54
Large groups of people showing support??

Send an e-mail and ask!!

I looked on the website but I couldn't find anything specific.





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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. I already emailed him.
If his hearing is during the week, we will have a hard time getting a demonstration together. Most of us who are active in the peace community here work days.

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:51 PM
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29. The hearing is June 4th- that's a Monday!
Let me know what they say when they reply to your e-mail, will you?

Probably a lot of people have to work. Maybe they can go in late? :shrug:

Can't hurt to spread the word anyway. ;)

:yourock:
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:37 PM
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23. WTF? How can they re-discharge?
I'm sure he's already received his certificate of honorable service. Now they want that back for exercising his rights? This is a bunch of BS. I'm anxiously waiting a positive outcome for Adam. Keep us posted.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:40 PM
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26. I think because "technically" he isn't
discharged from IRR?? I'm not sure. Sounds like BS to me too!!
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Loki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:25 PM
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30. Has anyone thought of informing VVAW?
I think that they are staying actively involved in the antiwar movement and have been proactive in helping Lt. Ehren Watada and might be interested in this. Don't we have some VVAW members here on DU?
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:31 PM
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31. I'm willing to bet they already know about it!
Edited on Wed May-23-07 04:37 PM by Breeze54
;)

I cross posted this in the Veterans Group on DU, just in case. ;)

Clearwater Revival: Croton-On-Hudson, New York

When: June 16 - 17, 2007 from 10:00 AM-10:00 PM

Where: Croton Point State Park

What: Vietnam Veterans Against the War/IVAW/VFP/MFSO


has 30' of display area and area for discussions with young people, educators et.al.

We (Hudson Valley VVAW/VFP) use this as our major fundraiser for the year.
This year, Dayl Wise will be introducing our newest Hudson Valley Veterans' poetry book.

Details:

The FestivalÑa celebration for the Hudson RiverÑfeatures high quality singer-songwriters,
performers and musicians offering fun with a purposeÑa diverse mix of contemporary,
traditional and American Roots music, dance, and storytelling.

Music ranges from Blues to Rock, Reggae to Salsa, Bluegrass to Jazz, and Funk to Folk.

Dance all weekend under a tented raised dance floor

to Zydeco, Swing, Cajun and Square Dancing music.

The Clearwater Festival is designed and implemented to create an enjoyable, entertaining
family experience in alignment with ClearwaterÕs environmental, social and business
sustainability standards. The Festival is organized with the utmost attention to each
program element. A diverse lineup of musicians, speakers, vendors, environmental exhibits,
displays and grassroots activist booths are presented to educate, advocate and celebrate a
sustainable lifestyle. In addition to the festival programming content, all behind-the-scenes elements,
such as sustainable stage power, recycling of food waste, volunteer meal preparation, and
sponsor selection are all done with goals of sustainability and social responsibility in mind.

More Info: Web Site http://www.clearwater.org/festival.html (will open in new window)

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:33 PM
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32. kick
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #32
34. You rock
again!! :yourock:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:59 PM
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33. Here's the link to use to donate:
Edited on Wed May-23-07 05:01 PM by Breeze54
http://www.ivaw.org/support

How Can I Support IVAW?

There are many ways to support IVAW and truly support our troops:

Make a financial contribution

Nearly half of IVAW’s budget is made up of contributions from individuals like you.

Please consider making a gift right now.

* $35 will cover the postage of 10 new member packets.
* $50 will keep our website up for a month
* $100 will pay for the printing of 750 IVAW brochures
* $250 will fly a member to speaking event
* $500 will pay for an ad in a local paper to let veterans know that IVAW exists

Use this button to donate on-line
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:34 PM
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36. Here are the e-mails from Kokesh and the USMC ----
Found at: http://kokesh.blogspot.com/

Kokesh e-mail to Maj John Whyte (Rest of letter at link above)


USMC Reply (Rest of letter at link above)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:37 PM
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37. kick
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #37
38. I'll see that kick and raise it!
:kick:
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 09:33 PM
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39. I don't think DUers know this was the
guy at Gonzo's hearing holding up the scorecard with the "I don't Recall" tick marks.

He is basically in trouble because some one reported him in violation of wearing the Corpse uniform improperly while on IRR (his boonie cap).

This is in the rules and regulations regarding marines particpating in political rallies, but obviously this is to shut up marines who come back and speak out against the "War".

It seems the military learned a lesson from Vietnam, don't let veterans tell the ground truth.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 09:49 PM
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40. He wore a uniform without ANY emblems!!
Edited on Wed May-23-07 09:52 PM by Breeze54
This is just BS! Plain and simple!

And he said it was due to his presence at Pelosi's office,
and this...

Sgt Kokesh in Washington


While conducting a memorial for the next soldier to fall in Iraq with Reverend Lennox Yearwood,
I was arrested for "Unlawful Assembly - Loud and Boisterous," and I didn't open my mouth once.

http://kokesh.blogspot.com/
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 10:01 PM
Response to Reply #40
41. The boonie (digital marpat) has a stitched ega on it
eagle, globe and anchor=ega.

To be clear Eat the Apple, Fuck the Corps. Sorry for the profanity, the Corpse brings it out of me.

But, it's these kind of legal minutiae they will use to stifle marines.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 10:08 PM
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42. "Eat the Apple, Leave the Corps" was my
Edited on Wed May-23-07 10:08 PM by Breeze54
2nd oldest son's mantra! :P
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 10:45 PM
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43. Kick for the night crew!
:kick:
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 01:13 AM
Response to Reply #43
44. Every IVAW member who can, should be there in full Memorial Day kit
And dare the corps to prosecute the whole lot of them en-mass right alongside this bloke. Right there, right then.

(Hope I got it right. Over here it would be ANZAC Day (march) kit.)
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 01:45 AM
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45. Great idea!!
I'm sure many will go there for support!

There have been a lot of vets who protested but they seem
to only be going after the two mentioned in the OP.

They talked back!! :eyes:
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