I am sorry to have to say this but...

Harry Reid is a wimp and they need someone stronger than him leading the Dems.

You might not always agreer with him, but he's sure no wimp!

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:sarcasm: :rofl:

I like Harry. He's smart. He doesn't do ineffective high dudgeon bullshit. He quietly advances the ball towards the goal.

of Murtha's tirades so much, I guess I promoted him!

OK, in the Senate, I'd prefer Durbin, Lautenburg, Boxer, Leahey...sombody with some fire and brimstone!

Seriously, though, I agree with the OP at this point. I just don't know who would replace Reid, even if the Democrats were open to it. Boxer, maybe? I'm at a loss to think of a truly excellent Senate Majority Leader.

and she doesn't back down and when I have heard her she says what others won't or are afraid to.

The evil you know is always better than the evil you don't know. If you open that door, no telling who will walk through it, but I pretty much guarantee at this point it won't be anyone we would like (THINK DLC). Status quo is fine for now.

But Reid seems and has seemed easily 'cowed' from the beginning! I agree!

also and Hoyer is a undercover republicon.

Hoyer's a bit too much of a whizzbang at fundraising through PACs for my taste, but he's a solid liberal on labor rights, civil rights, abortion rights, and education. He raised over a million dollars for Congressional campaigns in the last election cycle.

According to Vote Smart.org He gets a 100% rating from Planned Parenthood and NARAL, a 0% from NRLC, 100% rating from Americans for the Arts, 17% from the Business-Industry Political Action Committee, 91% from ACLU, 96% from NAACP, and 100% from the NEA.

If you have some issue where you think Hoyer opposes the party's interest, please specify what it is. To me it looks like you're just calling people names without anything to back it up.

If you don't know the difference between the House and the Senate...

Murtha as Senate leader would be a very nifty trick to pull off.

I have a real problem with him as the Senate majority leader. I have since the beginning. Problem is, besides Teddy, I can't think of anyone else to suggest for the job.

That way we could see how the senators voted. In my opinion both the house and senate dems wimped out.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00126

What there wasn't was an override vote. And that's because the Constitutional process by which an override of a veto is considered does not provide for a vote in the Senate when a bill originating in the House is vetoed and the House, which is directed by the Constitution to consider an override vote first, fails to override.

It said while most of the dems in the house liked Murtha he was hard to get along with and would not have been able to negotitate with the dems and republicans. They said Hoyer also was liked and could get people to gether and agree. That's why most voted for Hoyer over Murtha.

There were 10 years of a majority who didn't care WHAT the Dems thought, and now all they do is cry that nobody is paying any attention to them as the minority! As far as I'm concerned, the issue should be presented strongly enough to convince at least some Pubs to agree and not depend so much on the Leader!

'Tis the rub.

do I find a list of how they vote in both the house and senate?

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home

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An enabler of the junta.

A 'pretend' opposition who makes the noises but then makes certain that the opposition gets its way.

The democratic leadership has been purchased by the RW

phase II WMD hearings. However, no phase II...no follow up....no real impact. If he had don't it again when the two-week deadline passed....then we'd have had something going.

Is there any way to challenge a majority leader mid-term?

And the Harry Reid avatar's were everywhere on DU (oh yes I'm keeping track of every overjoyed comment-I think the end of habeous corpus was the end of the Democratic party and I think I'm being proved true) There were buckets of congratulatary posts. However, he never followed up on that again. It was a nice try. He's not a bad guy, however, if the Bushies were REALLY Nazi's we would be in camps now. Afterall, the Dems don't have the votes!! What could they do?????????? :nopity:

Reid sounds wimpy no matter what is going on....God, can't we have a STRONG personality out there??