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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 01:54 PM
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Another one that give christians a bad name.......
Good friend of mine living in Michigan. Her husband has gotten mixed up with the born agains and has been going all "be submissive" on her. She's one fight away from serving him with papers and changing the locks on his born again butt.

So in the middle of the night last night half the living room ceiling falls in - Drywall and insulation EVERYWHERE - and the cold from the outside streaming in to the house --- in the middle of the night ---- in Michigan --- in mid November. That husband never even got out of bed. NEVER EVEN GOT OUT OF BED to pretend he was in the least concerned.

She hops up, checks on the kids, hauls out a ladder and inspects - runs off the Walmart at 3am, buys a tarp and drywall screws - comes home and secures the edges of what's left so the damage isn't worse by morning - figures out a way to get the tarp to stay up there covering the hole to make some attempt at keeping the house warm enough to get through the night.

This morning the born again disappears off to his church meetings until about an hour ago. She let him have it when he got home. His reply? HOW DARE SHE THINK SHE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN GOD - and she should have enough sense to know he has more important things on his agenda for today - that he's happy TO HELP HER fix the ceiling when he has time.


Poor idiot --- tomorrow around lunch time he's going to be telling the people at work he had no idea she was so unhappy that she had to file for divorce.


I share this because the born agains are the primary voting block of the Republican and now Tea Party electorate. This dunce is not extraordinary. He's the same kind of dunce as Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin and Pat Robertson and the rest of them. I don't know if it's brain damage or mental illness or just pure fucking evil or some of all 3 but the selfishness and self-centeredness makes them impossible to live with.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 01:56 PM
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1. Grrrr.
Edited on Sun Nov-14-10 01:56 PM by supernova
That would be enough to make me want to do terrible things to his anatomy.

Lawyers are a very good thing.

edit: All the best to your friend.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 02:13 PM
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5. Thanks
Fortunately my brothers live only about 50 miles from her and they are driving over today to fix it. Yes, I'm blessed with great brothers. She is too but one is in Afghanistan and the other lives in California.

The ceiling was bad enough. The abusive attitude from the idiot just compounded everything.

And oddly, while she's crying into my ear on the phone - she's the one that connected this with politics. Her brother, who should be here where he could help, risking his life against his will in Afghanistan because of stop loss and a "holy war".
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 01:57 PM
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2. His personal salvation is what he considers important.
Not his wife, not his kids. It's all about him getting a payoff for eternity, the selfish git.

Quote Matthew 25:41-46 and tell him he's going to hell.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 01:59 PM
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3. Hubby needs to put his Man Pants on...
...stop acting like a Republicon SuckerPuppet, letting his soul be pumped full of ideological crapola.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 02:39 PM
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12. Let's not follow religious cultism with sexism.
He needs to learn empathy and humility. "Man pants" has nothing to do with it.

He ruined his marriage by deciding that his ego was more important than his relationship.

He decided that he could reliably depend upon his wife to take care of almost everything, and she would. So he decided to come up with a justification for this so that he could do nothing and then coerce her to do even more, instead of getting off his ass to participate in the relationship as a partner.

In many relationship there is inequality, where one of them does less, or may care less, and possibly takes advantage of the other to some extent. That wasn't good enough for him. It sounds, just from this one example, very much like he wanted to see how far he could take it to the extreme. Not very far, as it turns out. At least, not for very long.

Good for her for getting rid of him. No body needs that kind of useless baggage.

I hope she can get a very good divorce settlement from him so that he's at least good for whatever financial support he's able to provide for the kids, and her until she chooses to remarry. Any asshole who deliberately makes his family miserable while he's married should have to pay for it through the terms of the divorce.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 02:43 PM
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13. What exactly are man pants?
I've been a man 50 years, putting my pants on by myself for most of that time and I've never been clear if I'm doing it right. Perhaps I'm not wearing the pants right, but I feel like a man in pants or out of them.

What's the secret?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 02:47 PM
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14. Christine TeaBagger O'donnell (R) is apparently the only one who knows the 'secret'
Edited on Sun Nov-14-10 02:50 PM by SpiralHawk
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 03:01 PM
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15. So you've decided to quote her without understanding the meaning?
Just so we're understood. This is how right wing talking points and phrases make their way into common American dialog.

Personally, I think the phrase is pure bullshit, but that's just me.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 07:29 PM
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22. Righteous indignation is no cure for Irony Deficiency
Edited on Sun Nov-14-10 07:32 PM by SpiralHawk
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 08:00 PM
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25. "I was only joking" is no good excuse for sexism.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 08:54 PM
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30. Righteous indignation?
Really? You're a hoot.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 02:07 PM
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4. I thought God was Everywhere - did he have to go to church to
be with Him? I guess God lives in a building, not in one's heart.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 02:18 PM
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6. This guy would be an asshole with or without religion
Nice story though.

Don
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 02:18 PM
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7. I'm really trying hard to find some sympathy for her but.....nope, let
his ass start to get cold and all that goes with that and let him at least attempt to take care of the situation. He knew she would do what she did so he won. Get rid of him, he's useless.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 02:22 PM
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8. If she stays with the guy even one more day she is a fool. Tell her to GET OUT NOW!!!!!
Edited on Sun Nov-14-10 02:24 PM by BrklynLiberal
Take the kids and go home to parents...find a lawyer. Go to an abused women's shelter if need be..but GET THE HELL OUT OF THAT HOUSE AND THAT RELATIONSHIP!!
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 08:21 PM
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27. Do NOT leave the house.
Get a lawyer, file for divorce, change the locks and kick him out. Use a restraining order and the local deputies. And then if you don't want to be in the house sell it and have the divorce lawyer lock it up on a real estate trust so mr. Fundentalfucker doesn't get a dime.

If you leave the house the claim to it is greatly diminished. You don't have to keep living there after getting legal possession.

Step one. Talk to a lawyer. Get the meanest shark alive and instruct them to take the gloves off.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 02:31 PM
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9. I used to go to a hardcore born again church. I quit.
Edited on Sun Nov-14-10 02:32 PM by Initech
And here's the reason - one night we were going to Six Flags - which I don't particularly enjoy doing to begin with. And after all day of being there, we head home at about 11:00. And they were going to put me in a car with people I had never met - and when I went to ask what was up with this, my friends at the time told me that the church policy regarding shared rides was that they had to have an equal ratio of guys to girls in the car at all times. And when I asked what the fuck - why is this policy like this, all I got was a blank stare like "you know what". :crazy:

But you're right about these people - they're so blind-sided by their dogma and all that crap, and they're the ones who vote Republican. We have to start fighting back against the Talibornagains, or it's going to get much worse than this election. :argh:
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 02:37 PM
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10. Tell her to take pics of HER repair job and the supplies reciept
to show it was she who had to take care of hearth, home and family (kids). So, if she chooses to seek full custody of the children, and retain the house for financial leverage, it will be a good beginning of documentation on her behalf. If she's going to file, documenting everything, including making sure she has the originals or copies of taxes from at least two years back, and same for bank accounts and credit can go a long way in making sure she has what she needs to have things go her way and not be railroaded into his demands, or be at a loss for having all financial and actionable information at hand.

Thanks for sharing this. Hope your friend comes out of this way ahead :hug:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 02:37 PM
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11. Tell her to GET OUT NOW and make sure he keeps the house
If half the drywall fell in the living room, she's got a lot more serious problems than that down the line.

The guy is a self centered, abusive jerk and religion is just his latest excuse. She is not going to be able to fix that, ever.

She needs to get out for her health and the health of her children.

Just make sure he keeps that house. Really.
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Scruffy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 03:24 PM
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16. Falling drywall is usyally caused by water damage.
My wife was captured by these asshole fundies for a while, but eventually got some kind of sanity back. Though she is still crazy and so am I. I just can't handle their p0verty is the wages of sin crap, but some of them were very nice people, just being misled. I also got the impression it wasn't so much the ministers, but the wealthy members who were setting the agenda.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 03:27 PM
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17. Or water damage and improper installation, which is what I'm thinking
If all the drywall in that place was nailed instead of screwed, look out below!
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 05:56 PM
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20. nails
Her dad and uncle personally did the drywall when it was built back in 1950 something. I think drywall was a new thing then how hard it is to nail without breaking the paper, and I don't think hey realized breaking the paper means eventually the sucker's coming down. It held almost 60 years in spite of kids jumping around upstairs.
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 03:40 PM
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18. So the Born Again Christian primarily votes Republican...
Edited on Sun Nov-14-10 03:41 PM by Sheepshank
or,,,Republicans are the one who primarily convert to Born Again Christianity?
Isn't it a wash for losing/gaining votes?
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 04:30 PM
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19. It appears to me that she has been carrying the weight in that marriage
for long enough. She is correct in suing for divorce. He is an idiot. I thought the man thingie march people had kind of died out. It did not work for most of them.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 07:14 PM
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21. Where does she live? I can recommend some good lawyers.
I've been going through the divorce/custody crap from hell and know the names of some really good lawyers. She'll need one--he's going to fight tooth and nail for every tiny little thing.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 07:52 PM
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23. What a prick...
he puts his imaginary friends before his family; sad.
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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 07:55 PM
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24. Being in church doesn't make you a Christian
any more than being in a garage makes you a car.

This idiot may call himself a Christian, but he sure doesn't follow the teachings of Christ.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 08:01 PM
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26. Fundamentalists of all stripes are the problem
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 08:50 PM
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28. This guy is not a "christian" he's nothing but an ass
Edited on Sun Nov-14-10 08:51 PM by Raine
who hides behind that label. I have known REAL christians and he is ABSOLUTELY NOT ONE!

edit: typo
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 08:53 PM
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29. Fishy.
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