Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Taxpayers itemized reciept

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
divvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:48 AM
Original message
Taxpayers itemized reciept


I got this chart here: https://news.fidelity.com/news/article.jhtml?guid=/FidelityNewsPage/pages/tracking-your-federal-tax-dollars&topic=taxes

The article says not everything is represented but of what is shown, $9164.77 per year of a working couples tax bill is spent on the military. This is over 21.3% of your tax bill. The CIA, FBI, and Border security budgets add another $890.25, or 2% to the tax receipt.

Most Americans have wrong ideas about what items are the largest expenses in the budget as the result of tea bag or right wing spin. The largest expense is Social Security, but most all of this gets paid back to you by the time you reach the mid 80's.

We do a lousy job of presenting our own case. If we let the tea bag types control the discussion, then the budget decisions will only create another fiscal disaster.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:21 AM
Response to Original message
1. The MIC is where most of our money goes
In fact, every single calculation I have seen, mainstream, liberal, conservative indicates that is where our tax dollars go.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:08 AM
Response to Original message
2. This chart may be right, but it's still wrong.....
.... why not take Social Security and break it down into its component parts - men, women, disabled, etc.?

The no single line-item would be listed as most expensive.



That's what happened to military expenditures on this chart. If I add all the military expenditures together (don't forget the Coast Guard!) they exceed the Social Security number.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:39 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. Even if you were to get back dollar for dollar after becoming eligible for
SS, $8K+ per year is not something a person can live on, and many minimum wage earners do not have access to private or public pension funds nor are they able to save.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
divvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 09:27 AM
Response to Reply #2
5. That is a great point !
Too bad our leadership can't figure out how to say it clearly.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 08:18 AM
Response to Original message
4. I don't know what you mean by "let" the teabaggers control the discussion
their benefactors own, and are in 100% control of, the media. Every newspaper, magazine, TV station, and radio station is run by ultra-right wingers who constantly lie, slander, and slant to make sure their version of reality is the one presented.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
divvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. Hi Dr J,
Most American voters have been grossly misinformed about budget expenses. The right wing has been controlling this dialog, and the left has been silent. At the minimum, we need to point out this misrepresentation of fact. I work with many folks who really believe that illegal immigrants consume more tax dollars than even the military and are followed closely by inner city blacks. Of course this is not true, but it does affect how people vote.

Much of our losses are directly attributable to how poorly we propagate our message. It is almost non-existent at times.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. true, but it doesn't address my point
The reason that your cohorts at work think that immigrants drain the economy is that Big Media tells them that, on every TV and radio station, and in every newspaper, all day every day. They are misinformed not because of a problem with our framing, it is because the mass media is saturated with right-wing lies.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 09:46 AM
Response to Original message
6. I just noticed something funny about this chart
The retired couple with income of $100,000K is paying only 7.5% in taxes. Plus they're probably reaping SS and Medicare benefits. Yet they're the demographic that went teabag this year.

Fox News and Hate Radio - enemies of America.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 03:50 PM
Response to Original message
9. A lot of that "Department of Energy" allocation is also military....
The DoE now maintains our nuclear arsenal, you know.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 08:55 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC