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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:45 PM
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Gibbs: DADT Still a Priority
Good to hear although its discouraging that the President still has not reached out to Senators. It seems to me the administration still does not get that the gay community is upset because the rhetoric does not match their actions.


http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/11/17/Gibbs_Says_DADT_Still_A_Priority/
White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Wednesday that passing “don’t ask, don’t tell” repeal as part of the National Defense Authorization Act before the end of the year is "a priority" for President Barack Obama. But Gibbs added that the president has not reached out to any key senators on the matter.

“I don’t believe that the president has talked to Senator Collins or Senator Lieberman on this issue,” Gibbs said during a press gaggle. “The president believes that this can be done in a way, and it should be done as you heard Secretary Gates and others say, in the next few weeks. We ought to keep in the defense authorization bill; we ought to pass this in the defense authorization bill. And we ought to end a policy that the courts are rapidly getting close to ending on a timetable that might not find as much to their liking.”
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:48 PM
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1. I 'll agree that it's just as much.
The question is "What was it in the first place?"
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:48 PM
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2. Does he mean low priority, perhaps?
After all, it all matters what the meaning of "is" is, etc.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:53 PM
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3. Priority, eh?
When something is a priority for me I do something about it. I don't just sit around with my thumb up my ass.

If he doesn't do something about it fast, the judicial system is going to beat him to the punch and the whole thing will be thanks to the Log Cabin Republicans... and he will find himself on the wrong side of history.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:56 PM
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5. +1000 nt
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:41 PM
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14. +1001 nt
Edited on Wed Nov-17-10 03:42 PM by David Zephyr
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:55 PM
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4. Hey, give Obama a break...he's been busy...wining and dining the Chmaber of Commerce...
one group SURE to support him in 2012.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:02 PM
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6. .
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:09 PM
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7. Uh huh. A "priority" like the public option once was, no doubt.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:16 PM
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8. "discouraging that the President still has not reached out to Senators" --Why?
Again, there is no such thing as an uncommitted vote in the United States Senate anymore. What Senators do you think are going to vote differently based on the POTUS asking them to, exactly?
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:19 PM
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9. Snowe
She voted no in September, but she has now joined Lieberman in asking that the report be released early (for the vote). With Snowe comes Collins and possibly the two Dems that voted no. THere are several others that have signaled a willingness to vote yes given the right circumstances.

Have you called your Senator and asked them to vote yes on the repeal?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:12 PM
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17. My Senators are already voting yes.
As for Snowe, the more it looks like she's helping Obama, the more likely she is to get Tea Partied when she's up for reelection in 2012. So the best way to win her vote on this is to keep Obama far, far away from her.
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TriMera Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:28 PM
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11. Well, I guess we can just do away with
the White House Office of Legislative Affairs. Apparently this President has no need to reach out to Congress for anything, especially the repeal of DADT.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:09 PM
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16. Calls from the President don't get votes anymore. Deal-making does.
That's what the OLA deals with. Case in point: Senator Inouye mentioned today that of course the White House has been in contact with dozens of Senators from both parties. It's just not Obama doing it personally.
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:20 PM
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10. Yeah, the welfare of our servicemembers is a priority
Apparently in the same way that me getting my oil changed is a priority. Yeah, I say I'll do it so I'll get people off my back, but I'm gonna put it off until it really comes to bite me in the ass. :mad:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:38 PM
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12. LOL
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:40 PM
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13. 45 days left and he "hasn't reached out to any key Senators on the matter".
Such a display of "fierce advocacy in action".

People do what they want to do and don't do what they don't want to do.

45 days left to keep his fierce promise.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:45 PM
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15. Just out now in a breaking story the the Whitehouse has reached out (not sure what that means of the
Just out now in a breaking story the the Whitehouse has reached out (not sure what that means of the President personally).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9577688
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:39 PM
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19. Well, I have my deep reservations about how this is going to be played.
There's a million possibilities where Senate Democrats and the White House can work to appear to have "tried" to end the DADT ban, but just "couldn't" when they wouldn't.

FreeState, we now have two 'breaking news' stories that say exactly the opposite of each other. It's a cluster-fuck of ineptness, of floating trial balloons filled with bullshit. Why is the White House sending mixed signals on this? Ineptness or calculation?

It certainly is not heartening.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:42 PM
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20. So you complain that he isn't reaching out. Then he reaches out, and you find something else to
criticize.

My guess is that if Republicans come on board to the repeal (which is the only way it will happen), and it passes, you will then criticize him for something else. It's quite predictable.
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TriMera Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:49 PM
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21. No, what is predictable is that we are getting conflicting
stories. David is asking the same questions to which I would also like an answer. What are we to believe...Story #1 or Story #2? We seem to have a little communication problem and it's coming from the White House, as usual.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:53 PM
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23. I think the issue is that the powers at this point reside in Snowe/Collins, and no one else.
Snowe and Collins are not about to change their mind because the President calls them (as if they didn't know the President's position on this). They are either going to defy their leadership and vote for cloture or they aren't. We don't know right now whether they will or not, and we can't know (since we can't get inside their head). We will find out soon enough.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:35 PM
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25. Story #1 or Story #2?
Word! Exactly, TriMera! :)
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:32 PM
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24. Not at all. The White House sent out two different "signals" today. By accident or Intent?
That's what is "predictable".
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:16 PM
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18. A priority that we'll get to eventually
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:51 PM
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22. priority?
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

Inigo Montoya
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