Curtis Got Slapped: Mother claims teacher slapped son, writes 40 crazed pages of demands

Some of her demands:

A trip to Disneyworld for Curtis and his classmates

A personal audience with President Obama

$13,500 worth of WalMart gift cards

A job ("Independent consulting contract position with the Kansas City Missouri School district, for the next nine years. My consulting fee begins at $15,000 per month, minimum 6 months contract.")


I am in no way condoning what this teacher did. But this list of demands is coming from a parent who obviously has a few 'issues'.

This is one of the most bizarre things I have seen in a long time.

:shrug:

She is the "intellectual property owner" of her son, who she puts the copyright symbol next to?

Da fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.....

now, and I've been pushed and hit by students and had things thrown at me by kids as young as elementary. Yet the parents not only didn't care, they couldn't be bothered and the kids had an "entitlement" mentality. Wonder how long I'd last if I wrote a forty-page list of crazy demands like that?

teacher or student, was going to receive that trip to Disneyland, load of gift cards, and guaranteed job.

Oh, except it's not the slappee that gets the goodies. It's the owner of said slappee's "intellectual property owner."

:eyes:

I could have gotten a trip to disney land :) Seriously though, never piss off the wood shop teacher- those bastards make the worst (or best, depending on perspective) paddles.

As a former soldier in the wars, my hat is off to you. Stay safe.

sounds like a hostage taker who wasn't prepared and/or didn't want to take hostages lol and Walmart gift cards? What a crazy women.

To help pay for incidentals and uniforms and such...

She does have one demand I agree with - no HAARP mind-altering emanations to be aimed at the local community, or other mind control techniques. They ought to just grant her that one and call it even... :)

I'm also sure that the teacher will be disciplined.

The letter is just...

surreal.

which is too bad. She's really a good teacher. As crazy as this letter is, I'm wondering if this really happened at all.

at all. Even though I'm the daughter of teachers and staunchly defend them and what they deal with every single freaking day, I do not blindly defend them or refuse to recognize that there are bad teachers who mistreat students. My parents would be the first to agree with that. However, given the craziness of this woman, I have a hard time believing the story as she tells it. AND I also know full well what teachers are subjected to at the hands of their students and enabling, coddling parents.

:rofl: :rofl:

Poor kid...

:rofl:

When you are 18 go far far away!

This can't be a happy home for Curtis.

speaks of her lack of competence.

But if the boy really was behaving badly, then I think a gentle reprimand from the school should suffice, and this woman's demands should be accordingly ignored.

Ha ha ha funny lady and her crazy demands. Now let's get rid of teachers who hit any child for any reason and then we can get back to laughing at the funny lady. Or do we want to ignore the real problem?

I am in no way condoning slapping any child, but this is so crazy, I can't help but wonder if it is the creation of a very delusional mother.

doesn't mean it happened. I got sued in federal court years ago by a nutball who, among other things, claimed I struck a child in her care. It of course didn't happen, but she wanted to be as dramatic as possible in her suit and I guess she thought it added color.

I won, of course. And did it serving as my own attorney.

Witnesses? of course her son will say whatever he's told to say.

Every year or so I get a long letter from someone who is schizophrenic/paranoid or something like that. Not the same person, although there have been repeats. Just a long letter, usually photocopied and sent to a lot of people. It makes you wonder if a person is this crazy should I feel scared that they have my name and address.

Part of this letter is also shares some idea with the sovereign citizen movement. That is why she is claiming copyright on their names, so the user can be sued for huge statutory damages. Ironically this long letter purports to be anti-racist when using white supremacist ideas.

I know a lady with Schizophrenia and she will insist that someone has dome something they never did.

who are physical with THEM? I've been subjected to that as a sub, my parents dealt with that throughout their long career. It happens a helluva lot more than you'd think, far more than any incidents of bad teachers. It very much goes both ways, you know. I realize that teachers are to blame for everything under the sun when it comes to education, but students and their parents bear a large share of responsibility and blame as well.

he is a large bear of a man,ex-military,ex-cop 5th grade behavior-challenged students...and the kids don't usually say anything but "yes,sir" to him(even though he is a sweetie)
his best friend,however,has a different story.
she is a 4th grade behavior-challenged teacher...and the kids are horrid.She is a very strict,but kind,teacher...but the kids are getting bigger,more aggressive...and their parents are no where to be found.I feel sorry for the kids...but I also feel sorry for the teachers.these guys have dedicated their lives to kids the world has turned it's back on.There's no one there to defend them.

throughout his career, as were some of his colleagues. It always terrified him because he couldn't defend himself, if he lay a hand on a student, even one who was attacking HIM, HE was the one who could get in very serious trouble. Total bullshit.

A seventh-grader came into my classroom one day and threw a book at me. Off to the ER I went. Every time I look in the mirror, I thank God I'm out of that nightmare.

staff and their coddling parents, too? Or does that just never happen in your teachers-are-the-only-ones-ever-to-blame perspective?

I actually went to school in this district. I'm aware of the low quality of both the students AND teachers.

are you kidding me?

about students who attack and assault teachers. Because I can tell you that it happens a HELLUVA lot more than the other way around and, often when students are "hit", it's when the teacher is attempting to defend him/herself from an attack. And not just in inner-city or crime-ridden areas, either. My stepdad had to take a couple of assaults because he was afraid of what would happen to HIM if he attempted to defend himself. My mother taught at a juvenile reformatory for boys where there were often assaults or threats of assaults. Just as not all teachers are good and effective, not all students are little angels, either.

Bringing that up implies that you think it's OK for teachers to hit students because some students hit teachers.

Nor do I think it, and neither would any other decent teacher I know. I personally know many teachers who've reported the misbehavior of other teachers. It goes without saying that, unless you're being directly physically attacked, you should be immediately fired if you get physical with a student

But you cannot ignore the larger issue of this thread. Using your logic, you apparently seem to think it's okay for teachers to be assaulted and seem to have no idea of the prevalence of that (believe me, it's much more common than you'd like to think). Do you not think teachers should be able to defend themselves when attacked, or should they just take it? I can say from firsthand experience just how frightening it is to be threatened by a student, particularly one who's taller and stronger than you. And I'm just a sub.

as a three-legged table. If she told me the sky was blue I might question my concept of blue.

You state "the real problem" as if you perceive merely one. Is that correct? In this story you see simply one "real" problem?

It would appear as though the verbal indictments you so easily throw out like pennies into a pond apply just as validly to you also. :shrug:

I would say his mother should be slapped. But I'm not.

for my meanness! :rofl:

"The mom is too damned high".

But you're nicer than that.

Now the school personnel will have to start referring to him by his student number in order to avoid paying royalties.

So, the teacher did slap him. She will be disciplined (written up in her permanent file, which then becomes an issue every time she's evaluated from now on, and if she leaves the school, it will most likely follow her, as it's now all over the internet, making getting a new job very difficult--all of which is appropriate, in my opinion).

The mom, though, is nuts. If I were the principal, I'd ban her from talking to teachers directly and ask that a higher-up be present for any meetings (and record those meetings with her permission, just in case). This one's a big-time liability.

with this insane list of demands.

The teacher is probably going to retire. I've worked with her and find this hard to believe. So I find her predicament sad. If she really did slap him, then she should retire. If not, she really doesn't have any choice but to retire.

And this poor little boy will still have an insane mother. He's the real victim here and my heart aches for him.

I once taught a kid whose mom was bat**** insane, and he admitted to siccing her on teachers he was mad at. We'd go on lockdown, just his teachers, when she came into the school, and we were told never to talk to her at all, not after she threatened a teacher and then his football coach.

This is a sign that it's time to retire. It sounds like it really happened, and if it did, then it's time to realize that the stress is too much, and it's time.

so who knows what happened.

When I was a cashier in a supermarket a crazy woman once insisted that I gave her the finger as I was checking her out. She threw a tantrum in the middle of the store, insisted on seeing the manager to tell him "this white bitch flicked me off". I said I'd never seen her before and asked her to show me the receipt to prove she'd gone through my line.

She started screaming "are you calling me a liar? then I'm leaving" and pushed her way out of the store.

So while it's not inconceivable that a teacher might slap a student, I wouldn't assume it actually happened based only on the accusations of a woman who is clearly suffering a severe break from reality.

The principal would have notes on that and would be the one who'd know what happened.

meet with out a administrator present. Their out to get any teacher (not just me) any time any where in trouble. The father yelled and screamed at me after a 12 hour day (a saturday) at competitions and he wasn't happy about the events his daughter was in. My wife who was the bus had to witness this guy go off. He wanted to meet with me on monday so I made sure it was with a administrator. Him and his wife were calm at that point but left saying they like to rock the boat to keep things lively. I still have run in's with them, but I believe all the school board down believe they've flipped the boat over. i have a very supportive admin, not everyone does.

* an administrator

* they're out to get

* he and his wife.


Please.

No put-down, it just burns my eyes....

at 7 am

but the next time I write something in a minute and a half I'll try harder to meet everyone's expectations.

:rofl:

she would kick my butt for that. I think long and hard when I speak to her because she will correct me in a heart beat. Which is good, she makes me proof my grants, papers and recommendations over and over before I would submit them. On a msg board she lets me look like a fool. :spank:

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incapable of constructing a sentence?

I imagine there's a relevant difference between the informality of our personal lives after work, and the formal disciplines we structure ourselves to work within five day a week. Else fashion designers would never wear sweat pants.

"Ah, but for the high standards we set for all others but ourselves."

and near-illiteracy.

"audience with the honorable minister louis farrakan..."

effort to make a point (as in, she knows how wildly insane it is, but she's having us on). Any way you slice it, though, it's pretty hilarious...

The crazy dark skinned lady, no less.

:eyes:

Why else do you think that theses stories -- and stories about animal abuse, and about wacky government spending, and fat people, and about moral atrocities like banning smoking and spanking (not doing them but banning them) -- get so much press?

They're low-rent agitprop. "Buy our paper and get your outrage on!"

Funny how we are able to cynically write off news about Hollywood train wrecks and the upcoming royal wedding, but we still fall for this bullshit. (Or is "(mammal) puckey" the new acceptable term?)

--d!

if its fake its brilliantly executed. if not, even better.

http://www.lisahenryjazz.com/gallery/index.html

And, sorry, but wealth, gender and race don't have a thing to do with it, once you write 40 pages like that, and start a web site.

what would you think if a parent accusing a black teacher of slapping her kid referred to her as a "black bitch"?

Hmmm. I got a couple tings to say to my old man over tanksgivin.

Am I missing something here?

a truly bad place to be a kid

Because from all evidence on her website supporting her jazz career, she seems to be what she says she is, and she sounds like it too.

And I am evidently, from the photo gallery, one degree of separation from her, twice - one musician I've performed with and one other I've met.

She's documented, however, as having pulled a power play on a local KC jazz foundation, with "racist" accusation trash talk. So I don't know.

Too bad, the woman is really talented, she doesn't need to do all this crap.

and I have NEVER heard of this woman. She can't be very successful or I would know who she is.

which is reason enough to slap curtis and her both, so be warned.

http://www.lisahenryjazz.com/about/index.html

but honestly, she can sing, and her piano player isn't bad, either.

Not quite like arriving on an old Tripod/Angelfire page with a blasting synth version of some crap song, with so much crap on the page you can't find the freaking sound controls.

Hers are placed on the same place on every page... I found them within seconds... and honestly, she CAN sing.

That's what makes her such a sad case (in my opinion, anyway)... she's got so much going on... I wish I could sing like that... she doesn't NEED to be a professional @-hole, much less mess up her kid's head.

where surfing was frowned upon. Started blasting some terrible music while i was killing time, mid 90's metal trash and page froze. Had to be ie4, I finally powered the machine off and went to get a coke..

To this day i am offended by any noise coming from a computer that i did not initiate.

http://www.angelfire.com/super/badwebs/

:evilgrin:

ruh-roh....

brings back bad memories of the late 90's :)

:evilfrown:

it did continue for a while, though.

:scared:

:rofl:

All of us in the music world know of the scenesters who are full of crap and talk a big game. She might be one of those.

Or maybe she just doesn't work anywhere that isn't a Queen Bee situation for her... local jazz foundation; gov't/public type gigs.

It's a shame she's guano poop crazy, she really can sing.

http://www.pitch.com/2010-02-04/news/power-struggle-at-kansas-city-s-mutual-musicians-foundation/3/

but still out her fucking mind. Poor curtis.

and depending on other circumstances I might actually have committed a felonious assault

I don't know what happened here, so I don't feel comfortable sneering at the upset woman who says her son was slapped

I will say I'm unclear on why people think it's OK to slap kids

http://www.pitch.com/2010-02-04/news/power-struggle-at-kansas-city-s-mutual-musicians-foundation/3/

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3364241

classic funny

sue us and can very often file a criminal complaint if we slap them

On the other hand, many people seem to find nothing wrong with slapping kids

Maybe as a gun enthusiast you would prefer if the lady had threatened to shoot anybody who laid an unfriendly hand on the kid?

So she wrote a bunch of long letters. Big deal

and in hindsight I did. Now if the teacher broke the rules, thats bad and she should be reprimanded.

My hobbies are not relevant here. I also appreciate british sports cars, running her ass over with a bug eyed sprite (or shooting) her had not crossed my mind.

The letter mentions HAARP, meeting the honorable louis farrakan, obama, cornell west and 250,000 dollars with her kids name copyrighted.

It is fucking hilarious and curtis will be getting slapped when he goes to yale as a result of this rant.

I clarified in my OP that I don't condone that.

But I also don't think we can be sure that even happened. This mother is obviously insane. This 40 page letter is full of delusional demands.

And most police officers aren't going to arrest someone for slapping someone else.

No one has said it's OK to slap a kid.

A little websearch will turn up plenty of cases

Elementary school student in Slidell arrested after allegedly slapping teacher
Published: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 3:02 PM Updated: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 3:26 PM
http://blog.nola.com/tpnorthshore/2009/03/elementary_school_student_in_s.html

Duval volleyball coach charged with slapping player
Posted: October 21, 2010 - 5:09pm
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-10-21/story/high-school-volleyball-coach-arrested-fired-charge-slapping-player

unless the slap was domestic related (relatives, etc.) in most jurisdictions it is not a mandatory arrest, and sure SOME people are going to get arrested for it. Many aren't. Fwiw, in WA state it would not even be a crime, generally speaking because teachers under the RCW have the same authority to "physically discipline" as parents. A slap to the face CAN be excessive physical discipline, but not usually.

That doesn't mean that slapping someone is likely to lead to an arrest, or much of anything else.

As for sneering at the woman, there's "upset" and there's the pile of wildly unrelated-to-the-incident "bills" she's put together to the tune of over a million dollars, demanding a $180,000/yr job at the school board, an African holiday, a car ("my choice"), her mortgage, home renovations, and nine years of professional tennis lessons. Oh, and claiming to hold a copyright on the kid, and wanting to bill people for using his name in any context.

This is really very funny. Though it is kind of sad too, especially since she is putting Curtis' name and image out there to be associated with her crazy.

I feel for this poor little boy.

she would have a 40 page reply:

It's a reasonable presumption that she is mentally ill and incapable of caring for a child.

I'm not sure who released this story but I'm guessing it was an attempt to smear the mother and not focus on the assault that took place in a classroom. An all new low, IMO. Now we laugh at mentally disturbed people and defend people who attack children?

I'm amazed it took this long for the press to pick up on it. It's been a month since she sent the 40 page letter.

louis farrakan, seriously, its public record. And will live on in internet lore for ages. Poor curtis will be at yale and still living this down.

Following your train of critical thought, as she was the one who released it, I imagine were forced to realize that it was she herself that attempted "to smear herself and not focus on the assault that took place in the classroom." An all new low for her...

Crazy like a fox, eh?

Or (and I find this a bit less fictional) many of your fellow posters at DU are able to perceive (and comprehend) more than one absurdity in the story. There are indeed many people who are able to juggle more than one apple at a time. :shrug:

the sense of entitlement by people is amazing.

numerous times, for being absolutely ignorant!

Kurtis behave in a way that this horrible teacher felt the need to slap him.

Sorry, but knowing kids, if one of them got slapped, every other kid in school would know before class was out that day. I find it rather suspicious that until his Mom wrote the principle and everybody else under the sun, "no one really heard about it." Sorry, but this fact alone makes me wonder if the slap happened at all.

But let's assume it did happen. OK, then the teacher should be disciplined, and I'm certain that the school district has guidelines that come into play here.

But the biggest elephant in the room is Mommy Dearest here. First of all, she is simply batshit crazy. Who in their right mind copyrights their kid's name? Second of all, her demands are all out of proportion to the action. Does she honestly think she will get any of these? Is she stupid enough to actually go to court with these demands? And frankly, what kind of drugs is she on?

This is just fucked up all the way around. But sadly, in this litigious society, the school board will cave. The teacher will be fired, the parent will be placated, and Curtis, well, he'll learn that he can get by with murder if he screams and threatens a lawsuit.

Frankly, if I had ever gotten slapped when I was in school, my Mom wouldn't be going after the teacher, should would going after me, wanting to know what stupid shit I had done to warrant such a reaction from the teacher.

The story is all over the racist web, but CurtisGotSlapped.com seems to be a nearly vacant website, and the alleged letter doesn't at all resemble in style the letter she wrote on the jazz-hall issue

She actually wrote this.

Who is "Henry Bowen"? The woman once went by the name "Lisa Henry" and later by "Lisa Henry Bowen" or "LIsa Bowen" but not, so far as I know, by the name Henry Bowen.

The website curtisgotslappedbyawhiteteacher.com, which actually has the content, was registered on 11 November, the same day the pitch-blog was posted, and carries tags like "A slow descent into schizophrenia" so is presumably not her's; it seems to be a money-making venture, to judge from ads it hosts

Seriously.

People often use mental illness as an insult around here, but she does really sound manic. I have bipolar II, so I've never been manic to the point of being seriously delusional - I tend to go to paranoia rather than grandiosity. My cousin has bipolar I, though, and this sounds like something she would have done back before she had a psychotic episode a few years ago.

You're telling me people wouldn't pay top dollar to see that? I'll buy a front row seat...It's like an unfiltered Sarah Palin without the whiteness and manufactured wholesome image! Better yet, this could be one of the great satirical works of the decade, as long as they don't go intellectually cheap and do it in a mock-reality TV style....A live wire of overlapping themes of race, class, education, politics, litigation, instant fame, etc...They could probably find a way for Michelle Rhee to put in an appearance as well...


Before some daring producer makes this woman a billionaire, do we have the first bit of confirmation that the teacher did what she claims?

I just can't bring myself to be bipartisan on this event. You see, there was this kid whose name was Curtis who grew up on the same block with my children. He was pretty big for his age and was a pretty nasty bully. He was always picking on the younger ones until one day, my oldest daughter who happened to be the oldest and biggest kid on the block caught him. She just so happened to be playing basketball at the time and invited Curtis to join her....when he did, she proceeded to try and put the basketball up Curtis' nose. The basketball didn't fit of course, but Curtis became much more docile and didn't pick on the younger ones as much... mainly because they would remind Curtis that Hanna, my daughter would be home from school shortly.

So unfortunately any kid named "Curtis" always reminds me of this obnoxious child.

It also reminds me of an old joke:

The first day of class a mother brings her son into the school room and introduces him to his new teacher. She also has a small request regarding her son that she thinks is very important that the teacher hears...

Mother to teacher: "This is my son Johnny, and he is a very sensative child, so when he misbehaves if you would just slap the child next to him, he'll straighten right up".

Poor Curtis.

So I guess that option is out.

:rofl:

Can't trust a check. :)

She's mentally unfit to parent.

and he's her "intellectual property."

why she did it, she slapped that student as well, and while I understand the racial undertones of a white teacher slapping a black student, that letter is just bizarre.

Very bizarre.

She needs help ASAP.