Oh, for god's sake...

TAX THE FUCKING RICH ALREADY!

If they're such great Americans let them get us out of this mess that they got us into in the first place.

If some kid can give his life for his country, let them put up a little of their dough!

bootstraps blah blah blah welfare queens blah

And yes, bootstraps, welfare queens and blah blah

Welcome to DU! :hi:

Harrumph, harrumph!

Kicked & recommended!

haven't seen one of those lately :) Belated welcome to DU :hi:

:hi:

I watched the blue ray version last week and that's where I got it from. Classic comedy!

I don't own a lot of DVD's, but that was one that I had to have. It's funny no matter how many times I've seen it. Thanks for the reminder.

It is pathetic enough that the semi-rich will fuck us all over, so their paymasters can have that fourth mega-yacht they've always wanted!

Got to stir it up or the poor suffer and the wealthy rot.

The stench of the rotten wealthy is strong, so yes, I agree 100%

TAX THE FUCKING RICH ALREADY!

:rofl:

Thanks for the best damned descriptive of the day!

with Bush v Gore. This fucking nation has NEVER been the same since.

Don't be afraid to go on the TV and say that you voted for the middle class taxcuts but the Repubs voted against it. Because they wanted to extend the cuts for the millionaires and billionaires. That is not a losing issue. Just be ready to defend your position.

they are complicit and will cave in. Please mark this post- if I am wrong (and I hope I am) I will gladly eat the crow (just pass the Tabasco, please)

:popcorn: The Senate will cave....instead of crow, I think I will eat Quayle topped with Bearnaise sauce.:9

there has to be something to make the behind the scenes money-men *scared*.

Auction the Picassos and use the proceeds to rebuild the cities!

As Lytton Strachey said in "CARRINGTON"

"CONFOUND, BLAST, DAMN AND FUCK THE UPPER CLASSES!"

'Carrington,' and watched the movie trailer. He also said: "People in love should never live together. When they do, the inevitable result is that they either fall out of love or drive one another insane."

How did I miss this movie? I love Emma. I was living in the 'fly over' state of Missouri and maybe it just got one week of exposure. I remember that happening there.

I love both quotes.

The rich got that way by stealing, lying, thieving, cheating and otherwise swindling other people. All of their assets are ill gotten gains that rightfully belong to others.

Would you allow a car thief to continue using the stolen vehicle to commute to work with? I don't think you would.

"Tax the rich, feed the poor. Till there are no rich no more." -- Ten Years After
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBufAi6WiQE

made my day. Took me back to a great time in my life where we thought we could REALLY CHANGE things.

1971...I graduated high school. Hope was actually a reality then.

Thanks again. I'm forwarding this song to many today.:yourock:

The fascists were quaking in their jackboots during that time!

That is what is missing today: hope. And for very good reason if you pay attention to the Corporate appeasers and their actions (both parties). Without a massive clogging of the streets with poor and middle class bodies the power structure will never change!

We need a leader to put a date out there for all out march against Capitalist control of our lives. Also, stop buying products made in a foreign country (unless you will suffer great harm without it). Build your own, repair your old one, whatever. Stop feeding the satanic pack of wolves by buying the goods made in factories they moved overseas.

Fight with your words AND your deeds! And keep up the good work!

anything (unless I had to) from China since 1989. I try to buy only from Democracies....but some democracies are more democratic than others.

I've been on a 'Consumer Strike' for quite a while....just buying the necessities. I try to buy from local companies.

I put my money where my heart is...

I fucking hate corporations. I told the Pepsi dude at the grocery store that I hated Pepsi and he said, 'I don't blame you.' lol.

this one is not, unfortunately. We got soft, and the rich gained control of the propaganda machine, I mean media.

tax the fucking shit out of those fuckers who have brought this country to the brink of ruin!!!!!! :grr: :mad:

what movie is that pic from?

Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

... then this country would have had zero unemployment at the end of W's eight years.

Rich people simply don't create jobs. And even if they did, they would not do so in an economic vacuum (i.e. shrunken middle class and nervous consumers).

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"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration."

Contrast that with today: "I will continue to include Republican ideas in all my legislation" -- Barrack Obama

what he believed- he did not lower himself to others levels, he allowed them to rise to his.

Versus having leaders whose every waking moment is dominated by thoughts of "compromise" and "capitulation."

It's not like they will stop doing whatever made them rich in protest. They are addicted
to their soft and privileged lifestyle and they will sustain it no matter what it takes.

:hug:

:smooch:

You gotta way with words, man! Hahahaha.

I LOVE IT!

K&R

"If they're such great Americans, let them get us out of this mess that they got us into in the first place."

I was typing the post on my phone, in anger and disgust, in case it didn't show. :)

besides the obvious point of taxing the rich (they can afforded it). We should also have a high tax rate on the rich because it would encourage them to invest in things they can get tax breaks for.

for anyone that uses their disposable inocme to create jobs.

The middle incomed sure can't -they have enough money for rent, and taxes and perhaps some food.

The administration allowed the lowly tea baggers to totally control the national dialogue on health care reform for months and then they gave in to anyone they could find to surrender to. They are doing the IDENTICAL thing now by hemming and hawing for months instead of just saying tax cuts for the rich will END on December 31, 2010!!! How hard is it to do the right thing? It's as if they WANT to lose every supporter they ever had.

What is wrong with our representatives? :banghead:

I don't have the balls to do it!!!!


I must reach across the aisle and get my hand torn off, the criticized and ridiculed.

I'm SO tired of these people whining , crying and carrying on about fucking TAXES.
The Republican party is nothing more than a few ultra-rich dirty greedy pigs and multitudes of (proudly) misinformed sheep that buy their socialist boogyman bullshit.
The rich have willfully decimated the nations manufacturing base by moving production overseas to take advantage of cheap labor and "business friendly" governments that allow them to pollute with impunity while at the same time using that very same cheap overseas labor as an excuse for not paying American workers living wages.
As far as I am concerned there are wealthy people stealing from ME every single day. Every time, cash my paycheck, take my kid to the doctor, or pay my bills. Some rich person or other always has their hand in MY god damned pocket while at the same time some other rich person is refusing to let me keep a fair percentage of the value I help to create with honest effort and skill.

I agree.

Ask them to act responsibly, and they'll take it personal every time.

Hissy! :yourock:

:-)

he said even if they make over 250,000, they are still going to get a tax break on that first 250,000. I guess that's just not good enough damn it!

Tax corporations. Just don't complain about layoffs, and/or outsourcing.

the government made the mess while kissing the asses of the rich. Everything the wealthy wanted (with few exceptions) they got. And what have they done? Shipped more and more jobs overseas, off-shored the corporations to avoid paying taxes and created one financial disaster after another. Go ahead and defend the rich if you like, and don't hold them accountable for taking the country to the brink of ruin, both economically and socially, but I doubt you'll find many who agree with your teabaggers view here.

banks and wallstreet. The vast majority of businesses and corporations didn't take America to the brink. However, wallstreet and the banks definitely did. Go ahead though. Attack the rich if you like. But it's a false boogeyman.

They are in the progress of attempting to undermine social programs that make a more effectively functioning society, just to hoard the wealth.

Are layoffs and outsourcing not already occurring? Did they not occur even with the Bush tax cuts, even with the massive corporate welfare programs that benefit the corporations?

When I said tax the rich I am speaking of the obscenely wealthy; as in, say, 2% wealthiest. Sure, tax corporations, too. And I'll complain all I want.

http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9560692

good job. Or is it all about revenge for you?

It's about fairness and common sense and solutions at a time of financial crisis, largely brought about by policies intended to make the rich richer. The sense of anger in my post comes from my reaction to the absurdity of the rhetoric and dialogue that is coming out of D.C.

And I'm not calling for a 99% rate.

so I could give this several :thumbsup:

They can overlook reality but we won't be a part of it. Trickle down has messed up this nation since its inception.

They've robbed us blind for the last 35 years...

At about that rate!

It's time for them to pay us back...

I hate to steal a great idea from a great leader but there you go. Take the taxes and use the money to create a Works Project Administration.

Statistically, nearly all of them are born into their "wealth"...

By externalizing all of the environmental costs while pocketing the "profits" of exploiting our Mother Earth, the entire corporate capitalist system is busy destroying our planet as a viable environment for air-breathing mammals...

A vast majority of "business" is either makework bullshit that supports the capitalists (remember, the ones destroying our planet for us!), war, "finance" and "Banking" (think Ponzi Scheme), Wal-Mart, etc. ...

And most of our best paying blue-collar jobs have already been outsourced...and the ones that haven't are on the chopping block because yesterday's interest MUST BE PAID from today's "excess labor" provided, SURPRISE, by us, the working class...

And the real work of providing meaningful goods and services can be done domestically and in less than half the hours that USAmericans presently are forced to work (to provide the profit for the rich fucks who are destroying our planet <remember that?>) by relocalizing and right-sizing into steady state economies dedicated to fulfilling human needs instead of corporate profit...

The "rich" are leeches on the community -- they are the ones who make out like the bandits they are by privatizing the commons and socializing the damage...

Fuck 'em.

If I had my way, I'd have a confiscatory tax rate (say 120%) on anything "made" in any form after the basic requirement of oh, probably 75K - 100K tops (in the worst case) has been satisfied...

These "rich" folks you are defending with such vigor are KILLING OUR PLANET (remember?)...

... and a job is a job.

However, given the recent rise and semi parity of the Canadian dollar with the US dollar I think Dave from Canada will soon be replaced with Deepak from Mumbai. Nothing personal, it's just good business sense, I am sure he'll understand.

there's the REAL economy of goods and services that serve human needs and reasonable wants...

Then there's the phony Vampire Capitalist Ponzi scheme of an "economy" -- fueled by fossil fuels, debt based money and manufactured desires...

It's the 2nd economy that's collapsing and is where the slavery mis-titled "jobs" emanate from... It's that "economy" that must quickly collapse before it renders the Earth uninhabitable...

The Real economy can be restructured and relocalized with steady state right sized local economies to enable rational transfer of goods and services. We don't need Goldman Sachs or Citibank for that but can do it with local and regional credit clearing mechanisms...

I don't think he'll understand though... :)

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the "government" here is a wholly owned subsidiary of "the rich" and do their bidding...

we must import more from Canada.

Yay for free market!

What do you think about a CEO making 2500 times more than the corporation's lowest paid worker?

And if that is the situation, why shouldn't I complain about layoffs and outsourcing?

suck it up...

to put us where we are. They both share the blame equally because they skipped down the path of our ruin hand in hand.

An uprising of the masses (poor) will be the only thing that can bring balance at this point.

off & outsource.

how do you continue to believe such nonsense in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary?

to a torrent after the Bush tax cuts. Taxes have been at historic lows anyway.

k&r

Love it.

:kick: :kick: :kick:

First up for budget cuts: CUT CORPORATE WELFARE!

went to the rich...

If you guessed 120% --- YOU WIN!!!!!

We didn't get diddly!

Well, why not? :hi:

I'm talking about shit like My Super Sweet 16, The "Real" Housewives of , and all that other crap, I want to puke. :puke:

:toast:

well said!

... didn't help much, it's time to try the opposite. (And history shows that raising taxes on the rich fosters a strong economy, so it's not like increasing their taxes doesn't have positive precedent.)

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THEN we'll talk about filing charges....

when we tax the rich we take away the money that they would have invested into economy blah blah blah

because the rich are sooo nice and don't horde or anything!

Rec

And I believe Obama does not want it to be his.

Hello, JFK, RFK, MLK, and attempts on Ford and Reagan.

:thumbsup: :hi:

before JFK, we would tax them up to 97%. I guess if you are super rich, 3% can amount to millions.

So what should the rule be? What is very successful? 500K a year? Say that the government takes away all after 500K a year. Still lets the rich be rich but gives a lot to the rest of us.

it matters :)

military. The rest of us cannot afford that luxury. IF they want it, let them pay for it.

Well said.

;)

concerned with pushing down wages & benefits.

the increases in military spending tell the same story.

It has the support of a majority of the American citizens. Do it!

It's because we don't have the extra cash.

I'd like to have a Mercedes Benz like Representative Grayson was talking about.
I don't know about that fancy purse, though.
Or 20,000 jars of Grey Poupon.

But, that was the most direct, visual aid I have seen in months.
And Grayson was a genius for coming up with that idea.

This country would be so better off with about a 100 Graysons in Congress.
We should get him back into office in 2012.
Seriously, he's that good.

Pay a little more or serve in Afghanistan.

Hissyspit 2012!

I say tax them at the rate the Republican Dwight Eisenhower did.

It is dangerous to use broad brushstrokes in the context of tax policy.

I abhor the fact that wealth has continued to accumulate at the very top of our society while real income for working families has declined. But I think it is dangerous and a bit folly to simply cry "tax the rich".

I am in no way opposed to people accumulating wealth as long as that wealth is earned by hard work, innovation, competitive advantage, etc. But I do believe that those with wealth should pay a higher percentage of their income in the form of taxes. They are in a better position to pay those taxes, i.e. the percentage of their income needed to sustain their families and put away a little for a rainy day is much lower than those that get up and go to work every day.

For many of the wealthiest Americans their only "work" is meeting with their investment managers over cocktails and lunch. For many most if not all of their income is what I call "lazy" income, i.e. they just sit back and let the money roll in. Yes they are putting their money at risk by investing in businesses, etc. but from a human perspective they don't toil at a job for 50 or 60 hours a week.

I would not be opposed to a temporary extension of the Bush tax cuts for everyone or permanently lowering the marginal rate for the wealthy from pre-Bush cut levels provided the tax code was cleaned up to prevent them from paying no taxes at all.

If the wealthy want lower marginal rates then let them have them but we eliminate many of the tax deductions and tax avoidance schemes. The problem I have is not only are their tax rates low relative to their income but many avoid tax altogether. And for those that don't remember that the rate on long-term capital gains is only 15%.

So for someone who takes home say $400,000 in earned income but $250,000 in capital gains, 1/3 of the income is taxed at 15%. I would like for 1/3 of my income to be taxed at that lower rate.

...just because I didn't go into detail. I consider it counter-meme (of the "pissed-off" kind) to the ideas that what you mention is off the table. Everything you suggest/describe falls under the umbrella of tax the rich. Obviously, there is devil in the details, and I added a few from other people in the follow-up posts upthread. Unfortunately, the odds are against any of my posts, detailed or angry or otherwise, having any impact at all. The "fix" seems to be in.

that they rob. The rich won't allow Congress to raise their taxes. And Congresscritters are among that crowd, so no tax increases on the rich.

is where you find the real leeches on society. In general, they are taking far, far more than they give back. Those are the ones who own our "congresscritters".

:spray: ed!!!

This 'trickle down' Urination hasn't worked....is never going to work. Either tax the fucking rich or check out what happened during the French Revolution.

Fucking Banksters.