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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:09 PM
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Turns out an aquaintance is getting hired by the Heritage Foundation,
the RW "think tank"...I never knew about his politics ...his wife is a friend of my wife's and they have been to our house several times over the last 10 years or so...

He was laid off from his job so returned to college for a masters degree, got interviewed and probably accepted by the HF...

I am really shocked to actually know someone like that - I assumed they were liberals, but never even discussed anything political with them - they just seemed like decent people.

mark
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:10 PM
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Could be a research job and not particularly a propaganda position...
Edited on Fri Nov-19-10 04:10 PM by rfranklin
They do have some factual basis for the distorted philosophy that they espouse.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 05:27 PM
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16. A research job in service of a propaganda outlet is a propaganda position. n/t
Edited on Fri Nov-19-10 05:27 PM by EFerrari
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:10 PM
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1. DUPE...itchy trigger finger
Edited on Fri Nov-19-10 04:11 PM by rfranklin
nt
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:12 PM
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2. You know, conservatives can be decent people.
We should not consider all of our political enemies unrepentant ignorant bastards with no redeeming qualities.
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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:14 PM
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3. Not at the Heritage Foundation
Full of hot air.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:19 PM
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6. I'm thinking more of the individual not the group.
We should not paint all members of a group with the same brush.

And, if he needs a job and is offered a good job with good pay, should he say he would rather his family go hungry and, maybe, lose their home.

The lower people get on Maslow's hierarchy of needs, the less politics or ideology matters. A hungry man has a narrow perspective.
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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:22 PM
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7. My comment was about the Heritage Foundation
not the OP's friend or other conservatives. Hell, I'm conservative on some issues, but not like these guys.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 12:48 PM
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27. Ahh...the concentration camp guard argument
It's o.k. to suspend your morals and do whatever anyone is willing to pay you to do--as long as your family is hungry. :sarcasm:
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:32 PM
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13. HF is a special kind of fundy...
they won't rest until every politician is ordained and theocracy is the rule of the land.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:15 PM
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4. That's true, especially if they were considered liberals by the OP. I'm guessing
any racism, homophobia (and all the pleasant things we associate with Republicans :) would have reared their ugly heads if they were doe-eyed-devotees.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:24 PM
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9. The log cabin Republicans are not homophobic...unles they are afraid of themselves,
and I've known many Republicans that arn't racist. But I still would not vote for one.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:16 PM
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5. Maybe it's just a J.O.B. Randi Rhodes references people at Fox who HATE what
they're spewing but need the job. Can't judge anybody's motives unless we KNOW what they are.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:23 PM
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8. We all work for The Man. nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:25 PM
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10. Conservatives are not necessarily your enemy
in a military sense. But look at your post. This is exactly what I mean when I say we are very close to a hot civil war. You have created the other, just because he took a job at Heritage.
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veganlush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:26 PM
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11. wow. n/t.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:30 PM
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12. "they just seemed like decent people"
Maybe they are? Are we in such a deep divide and civil war that we can't think of any conservatives as decent?
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 05:05 PM
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14. I know very few conservatives who are decent people. Most of them are scum,
regardless of college degrees...I am still having a hard time accepting this.

mark
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 05:30 PM
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17. Most of these people have nothing to do with conservatism.
They are authoritarians and sometimes, extremists.

My dad was a Republican. He wasn't anything like this Republican party and nothing like these so-called "conservatives".
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 06:55 PM
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19. This is a weird post....
"regardless of college degree"

Like the fact that someone sat in a desk for X amount of classes would make them make them less of a jerk but you are astonished that isn't the case.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 12:31 PM
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24. Not really when you consider the number of elitist 'liberals' here.
A college degree makes you a 'good' person and deserving while a lack of a college degree means you should work for minimum wage until you 'come to your senses'.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 05:07 PM
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15. Yes.
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Monique1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 06:04 PM
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18. I met a woman last night
who was a dem and now is repuke because her son told her to vote his way. We talked a while and she didn't know the Dem side - she is a senior.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 10:43 AM
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20. I'm not surprised.
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 10:51 AM
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21. You can bet he may not like you but only friends because his wife likes your wife. Really
there is no reason you can't be friends if you want to. Just don't talk politics at all with him.
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 10:56 AM
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22. Then get to know them better.
I think the phrase "keep friends close, enemies closer" fits here.

In this case, I guess it'll have to be really, really close.

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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 11:31 AM
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23. Shocking, huh? There are RW'ers that are otherwise decent people.
Hopefully you'll remain decent and not shun them over politics.
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EternalOptimist01 Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 02:00 PM
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28. It's strange..
It's strange when people approach the two sides with the Us = good, Them = bad mentality.

The irony of the "I hate them them because they are so full of hate" argument.

Each side has it's good and bad...

Conservative good:
Liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household. - Arthur C. Brooks
- Who really cares..

Conservative evil:
Anti-gay group protest...

(Before anyone corrects me, yes I'm aware of the difference in scope of the two examples...but you get the idea)
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 12:32 PM
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25. some people may be stupid or just don't notice
a few years ago our community radio station started airing these little 5 minute spots on constitutional issues put together by them - it was promoted by one of the founders of the station - a new agey, Hendrix-loving Mormon. (long story - the station has had an interesting history) It was one of the reasons I finally started getting involved with how the Board was running things. What a nightmare.

Anyway my point is I don't think ANY listeners or anybody but a couple of staff members even had a clue about the Heritage Foundation or who was behind it until I started raising a stink about it.

oh and: Hi Roger :hi:
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Atticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 12:38 PM
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26. My wife and I live in a VERY red community and, more than once, acquaintances have been shocked
to find out we are liberal Democrats.

"But, but---you're such NICE people!" is the way several have reacted.
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