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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:26 PM
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cop kicks teen with his hands up
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:28 PM
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1. Let me guess what the chief of police will say......
"The kicking of the suspect was justified"!

Just a wild guess.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:30 PM
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2. Video won't play for me.
:shrug:
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:37 PM
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6. Teens hands up. Undercover cop gives a running kick to the gut. Throws him to ground, then a big
kick from behind. big hard kicks, not little old lady kicks
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:31 PM
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3. I'd like to know the cop's side of the story - you don't get that from the clip.
Did something happen before that clip starts?

It's hard to make a judgment with only one side of a confrontation given.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:36 PM
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4. No it is not........
Guy was holding his hands up. Even if he punched the cop 1 minute ago the cop does not get a "freebie".
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:37 PM
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5. Sorry, hard for me to tell with half the story. nt
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:42 PM
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7. OK, I would love to hear what possible thing could justify it. Make anything up.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:45 PM
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9. How 'bout instead of making things up we just learn the full story?
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:52 PM
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10. No, really, make up the best possible reason a cop would do that. I would love to hear it!
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 11:49 PM
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14. Yeah, I'd like to hear a justification for kicking him in the head when he was down.
Or punching the woman who was stopped for jaywalking. JAYWALKING! == Punch in the face?
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 09:08 AM
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15. Me too.
Surely there's a "good reason."
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TriMera Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:44 PM
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8. Here's the rest of the story...
An undercover officer had just gotten his ass kicked in an alley while doing an undercover drug buy. There is still no word as to whether the kid that was kicked had anything to do with it. I live near Seattle and the cops are completely out of control here. Before we got a new Mayor, they got away with police brutality 100% of the time, now it's just 80%.
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 11:03 PM
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11. Even if the kid was involved earlier, he clearly had his hands
up in the surrender position--universally recognized. The cop has been involved in other excessive force stuff--even forcing dismissal of a case DURING trial!
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 11:06 PM
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12. The cop was pissed and knew he could do it and get away with it.
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TriMera Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 04:09 PM
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17. I totally agree. n/t
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 01:15 AM
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19. If you stood in a cop's face and said, "screw you" over and over again, would that be legal?
Should it be?

If this kid just committed a crime, if he exhibited violence toward that same police officer outside, then the officer had a right to eliminate that threat again. Yes, he did.

I don't know. I used to hate cops when I was younger, because I had a singular view, and was easily excitable, eager to vent all my angst against some authority figure. "Who the hell are you to tell me what I can and cannot do?" Hated cops.

But the realization slowly came to me that many of the people around me were untrustworthy. People stealing. People lying. People killing, other people. Every day. All around you. All around me, at least, it seems.

And suddenly, I see cops in a new light. I see them as protectors. I know how that sounds, but I do. We have a group of people that will come to your house, on a dark road, in response to a call that there was a madman running from room to room killing your family. They're who you call, and they'll walk right into the most dangerous situations, in the name of protecting the innocent, to getting criminals off the street. And I have grown to admire these brave people. It's not a job I would want.

Does that mean I think there should be no standards of conduct, and that our freedoms should be negotiable? No, it doesn't.

It does mean that I'm not going to jump to conclusions and join in on an uninformed bashing of the cops when we only have part of the story.

Could there possibly be any conceivable reason that would justify what we saw on the tape. Yeah, I think there might be a few. Just my opinion, and I'd be happy to join you in a discussion if you want.





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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 11:46 PM
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13. I heard on the news that they may bring in Federal investigators.
I really hope so. Internal investigation is such a joke.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 09:12 AM
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16. Oh boy
:popcorn:
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 04:14 PM
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18. Cops suck
We have way too many cops in this country and the vast majority suck ass.
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