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Boudica the Lyoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:19 PM
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This Cop has killed people and a dog in separate incidents.
This story has been in the news since August in Spokane, Washington. This deputy shot dead a man on the man's own property. It has been since discovered that he shot dead a dying man's dog in California and he also killed a man that he had in a choke hold.

Here's a bit of the story and links;

"Nov. 20--The deputy under investigation for shooting a Spokane Valley pastor was sued in California after he shot the dog of a woman who was performing CPR on her dying husband.

Deputy Brian Hirzel remains under investigation for the Aug. 25 shooting that killed 74-year-old Wayne Scott Creach at Creach's nursery business at 14208 E. Fourth Ave.

Before his 2008 hire date at the Spokane County Sheriff's Office, Hirzel worked three years as a deputy in Kootenai County and 13 years as a police officer for Cathedral City, Calif. During that time in California, Hirzel was cleared for a fatal application of a chokehold, according to police records.

But the 733-page investigative report from the Creach shooting makes no mention of an incident on May 15, 1997, in Cathedral City".

Read more here; http://dailyme.com/story/2010112000001976/deputy-probe-shot-dog-spurring-lawsuit.html

More about the murder of the 74 property owner here; http://www.spokesman.com/topics/creach-shooting/
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:25 PM
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1. Look how long it's taken just to get to this point.
More evidence of our laws applied unequally.
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:32 PM
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2. Once Terry Branstad takes over here in Iowa...
...such cops would probably be getting the Iowa Award.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:57 PM
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3. Is a psychological profile part of the requirements
to become a police officer? I'm guessing that perhaps in some jurisdictions but, it should be standard procedure, like a physical. Some people should not be Police Officers.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 09:19 PM
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4. There's an important distinction between cops and other public servants
A firefighter's job revolves around rescues and preserving the property of others
An EMT's job centers around providing emergency medical care to people
A cop's job is "get the bad guy."

To be a cop, you need to want to get the bad guy. In training, you learn that everyone is a potential bad guy, Your first assignment is usually in a prison, which is full of people society has deemed to be "the bad guys." You are taught that anyone who offers any resistance is "a bad guy" - why else would they be resisting.

The firefighter and emt are trained to see the people around them as people who they may someday need to help. Cops are trained to see those same peopleas people they may someday need to arrest.

I'm certain there are "good cops" out there - they can't ALL be assholes. But i'm equally certain that the job itself is VERY attractive, and also very rewarding to people who are assholes.
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Boudica the Lyoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 10:00 PM
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5. I don't think that should be only their role
I grew up in England where my mum always told us that if we were ever lost or needed help, find a policeman.

I remember once, when I was 15, I missed the last bus home from town (11pm) and I was running to get home before my curfew. A pair of policemen gave me a lift home and kindly let me out around the corner from our house so my mum wouldn't see me getting out of a police car. And then there was the time my friend and I were thumbing a lift and once again got a lift from a pair of friendly bobbies. Two London bobbies did a fake 'arrest' of my son when he was 12 for a souvenir photo. I have always found the British police to be helpful and friendly. I'm sure there are people who have ran into a some bad ones but all in all they seem to have a different role than the American police.

After living in the US for 37 years I have found the police do have the "get the bad guy" attitude you describe and that's a dirty shame. I'm a law abiding person yet I have been treated very rudely by them for no reason. I do believe the police force attracts many people who like to drive fast, carry a gun and have authority over people. I also believe they shouldn't have authority over us because they work for us. Protect and serve is their motto.
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