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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:39 PM
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$14 Trillion in Debt and WHAT do We HAVE to show for it?
We got two wars and that's about it.



Besides the I.O.U.s to Wall Street, that is.

Since we're being asked to pay for it,
with all that debt we coulda got something of real value:
such as direct investment into building a sound economy,
and universal health care,
and green jobs to clean up the environment,
and outstanding public education,
and improved public safety,
and sound infrastructure,
and world-class public transporation,
and lots more that would make this a better nation for ALL the people,
not just those few at the top making money off war.

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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:40 PM
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1. Another day older and deeper in debt.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:23 AM
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16. Same here. And like what we owe to Bank ______, we're doing our best to keep up on the interest.
For the USA: $413,954,825,362.17 in FY 2010 was interest.

Now, who holds that paper? What are the odds they would agree to a Jubilee?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:40 PM
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2. More billionaires! Where are your priorities?!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:30 AM
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17. Billionaires need Welfare, too.
Words of wisdom:



Wall Street Socialism

By Matthew Rothschild, September 17, 2008
The Progressive

If there are no atheists in a foxhole, there certainly aren’t any capitalists in a financial crisis.

After making one reckless bet after another, Wall Street firms have run to Washington with their tails between their legs.

And except for Lehman Brothers, Washington has thrown them some expensive bones.

The Fed just dished out $85 billion to AIG, after forking over $29 billion to Bear Stearns, and getting us all on the hook for hundreds of billions of dollars to back Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

This is socialism for Wall Street.

CONTINUED...

http://www.progressive.org/mag/wx091708.html



That was written at the beginning of the Great Billionaire Bailout. AIG got about $182 billion. Then there's the off-shoring...
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:45 PM
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3. Of course we have them on the run in Pakistan,
the banks are doing well. The rich are getting richer and we have the best Democracy money can buy. What more could we ask for?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:35 AM
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18. All the way with Timmy Geithner in 2016!
"Geithner's right when he says the financial sector had to be saved. … but it didn't have to be saved in this fashion," said Simon Johnson, a liberal MIT economist who coauthors a popular blog about the financial crisis.

Geithner's stature and influence at the White House increases.
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:47 PM
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4. A decade of record profits for international corporations. nt
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:40 AM
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20. ‘Owner-ship’ sails in the face of record corporate profits
Profits. Record. Profits.



‘Owner-ship’ sails in the face of record corporate profits

John Eby:
Published 5:58pm Sunday, November 28, 2010
Niles Daily Star

The Commerce Department reports that corporate profits have never been higher in American history, yet Republicans — the business party — aren’t celebrating this news.

These profits are coming not from revenue growth, which would benefit workers and executives, but from cost-cutting that keeps unemployment at 9.5 percent, allowing more of companies’ meager revenue growth to flow to the bottom line.

The New York Times calculated that at $1.66 trillion, U.S. corporations are on track for annualized profits that are the highest since such records were first kept in 1950.

Gains in profits are due mostly to rising productivity as workers spend more hours working and getting paid less to do it.

CONTINUED...

http://www.nilesstar.com/2010/11/28/john-eby-owner-ship-sails-in-the-face-of-record-corporate-profits/



Very classy.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:47 PM
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5. We didn't get a depression.
That has been averted so far.

But it may be coming from a Republican Congress soon.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 04:13 PM
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25. Depends on who you ask
The top players are raking in billions while 20%+ unemployment or underemployment.

Sounds like a depression to me.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:50 PM
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6. Perpetual war for perpetual peace. nt
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 09:17 PM
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8. Yah! We're like, totally safe and stuff!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 11:35 AM
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22. and Defense Contracting is still like totally recession proof
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 09:14 PM
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7. We're like a dumb 18-year old kid
that maxes out his new credit card - with nothing to show but a couple dozen dinners at Applebees.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 09:21 PM
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9. K&R ! //nt
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 10:07 PM
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10. A few fat cats who are so out of touch
the surprise of that pitchfork bearing crowd will be the first genuine thing they are likely to ever have encountered.

Recommended.
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xfundy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 10:39 PM
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11. More assholes to trickle down on us?
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 10:56 PM
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12. K&R....n/t
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 10:59 PM
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13. Excellent post. Rec'd with great sadness for what could have, should have been, n/t
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 02:46 AM
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14. We've got a bunch of worthless babblers sending each other
gossip over the e-mail --- and their babble is now called Wiki-leaks.

The authors of the Wikileaks cables would be better off quitting work and posting on DU all day. At least they would be doing something more positive than they have been in the jobs in which they are paid by US taxpayers.
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CrawlingChaos Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 02:59 AM
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15. Right On - K&R (nt)
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:38 AM
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19. Lots of dead people with flags on their coffins...
that weren't allowed to even be seen for a long time.
Also, now, we can be legally groped at the airport and have nudie shots taken of our bods.

Other than that, we got zilch.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 08:46 PM
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28. My friend's brother came home in one of those coffins.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 11:46 PM
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31. I'm sorry for your loss.
I wish those of us who wanted to be more reasonable before jumping off into extra wars could have been heard.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 10:46 AM
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21. An unhealthily wealthy inheritor class, along with some random table scraps. /nt
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Michigan-Arizona Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 02:45 PM
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23. K&R n/t
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 02:47 PM
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24. A slow and curious demise?


:hi:

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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 04:47 PM
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26. Bravo, Swamp Rat! Bravo!
Your "Garden of Bushly Delights" is over the top! Is the large-sized graphic file available? AWESOME!

And this, by the way, was my 9,999 post on DU! And a post most certainly well spent.

Thank you for perspective and artwork for many years at DU!
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 05:51 PM
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27. K&R n/t
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:00 PM
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29. Wars and more wars.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:04 PM
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30. Iraq war = war for profit
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