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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:03 PM
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COWARD STARTS WITH A "C" and "O"
Clinton Obama WAR Democrats
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:04 PM
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1. ignorance is bliss, isn't it, Bob?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:07 PM
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2. Pathetic. Beyond belief, almost.
Please identify your candidate. So we know who to thank for this slimy smear.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:11 PM
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5. Who is calling the kettle black? I as too, identify your candidate.
Who is a coward to speak their opinion......:smoke:
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:08 PM
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3. Nonsense
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:10 PM
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4. Woohoo! Word games!
Clinton and Obama HAve BIg Time Arguing agaiNsT themSelves. (clearly, they are COHABITANTS, living together in sin)
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:11 PM
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6. way to call them out
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:14 PM
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7. they voted no, some simply refuse to budge on their dislike of someone...
Though I myself felt that something was accomplished good came out of today's political cat and mouse shanigans....important concessions were given today by this whitehouse, if this bill had not passed we would again be at square one..

I watched the entire Iraq Vote on Cspan, I believe that Biden explained his yes vote well enough to satisfy myself that in hindsight all felt the same way. Even those that voted No I do believe knew very well there vote mattered little at that point but all in all I will for now probably because I have no choice believe that the fight to get out troops home is by far not over.

September seems to be a month a few of them mentioned that they believe will ensure they get enough votes from the 'repubs to bring out troops home from Iraq at least.

I have to tell you that I honestly believe we need to be sending some of them to help in 'Darfur, that we have not given aid all this time while thousands of innocent people both young and old, male and female are being killed, maimed and raped on almost a daily basis.

I hate warring but in some cases such as places that are teeming with such horrific events as in Darfur we are surely needed, in fact, the America I believed in would have already been there and out of Iraq long long ago...

I dont believe neither Obama nor Hillary are cowards, they take risks everyday, to believe they are not a target for fanatics constantly is a bit naive and yet they do now cower nor hide.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:20 PM
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10. September, of course, how stupid of me
September's the month that the Dems will start fighting. Jan, Feb, March, April, and May are not 'fight for what you believe' months. But September will be. Sure it will.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:36 PM
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14. I believe they have been fighting for quite some time, I give many of them credit
facing such malicious, greedy and downright evil dictator style individuals and they call themselves the party of morals, I believe whether you do or not that the majority of our party dems have still shown higher standards of ethics than the repubs, they have not lost my vote.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:32 PM
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12. Septembers will come and go
for years to come and these spineless people will agree to anything Bush says.

This was a test of character and except for Edwards and Dodd, the Dem candidates failed. They could have called out the leadership, they didn't. They could have spoken of their opposition as soon as the bill was mentioned, instead they sat back with their consultants and advisers and crafted the best way to respond to maximize their chances in 2008.

No "risk" they take comes anywhere near what the men and women in Iraq are taking. They just let Bush keep the bloodbath going. They will continue to allow it in the future. Just another six months, just another hundred billion, just another excuse to not take a stand. Meanwhile, the death continues and they sit in comfort and plan their strategy.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:17 PM
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8. EXPENSIVE HAIRCUT
Edwards eXPEcted NoiSy intrusIVe prEss HAssling hIm Re: big buCk beaUTy salon
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:20 PM
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9. How much blood was spilt over a haircut?
hmmmmm?
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:24 PM
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11. You mean this isn't just a stupid word game? Okay, then:
How the fuck do you possibly draw Obama in on this? Absolutely ridiculous.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 01:02 AM
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16. I don't have a settled candidate yet but it would have shown
perhaps CHARACTER and LEADERSHIP and DECENCY given the stakes if they had both VOTED BEFORE the vote was already assured. Voting no after it is too late is pathetic and shows an equivocation that I dislike intensely.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 09:26 AM
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22. I agree, but your reaction to that is radically different from mine.
Obama predicted roughly two months ago that Congress would not play chicken with the President over time tables and that the funding would go through without them.

It's the admission of the stark reality that Congress is not veto proof, and the President has the final say. You don't like it, and I don't like it. The problem still resides in the White House.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:39 PM
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15. None - but since Edwards VOTED FOR the war to begin with
and can't really do much about it now except say, "oops," I don't give him much credit.

Haircuts and houses, aside.
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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 01:15 AM
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18. Obama opposed the war before Edwards did
But guess what? I don't hold it against Edwards, and will proudly vote for him should he get the nomination! (I would love to see Obama and Edwards on a ticket together!) As I will for any of our Democratic candidates..ESPECIALLY those who voted No on the funding and oppose the war! Criticism of Democrats is fine, but smearing good Democrats is the act of a right wing Republican.
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whopis01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 10:07 AM
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23. well, it would have to be a really bad haircut for that...
I mean, I had a barber nick my ear once, but it wasn't that much blood spilt...
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:33 PM
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13. What a stupid thread.
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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 01:11 AM
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17. You mean the ones that voted NO on the war funding?
By the way, Obama has opposed the war from the beginning and showed his opposition once again by opposing the funding bill today. I know Obama's detractors won't let the facts get in the way of a good story, though.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 02:26 AM
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19. There's only one candidate who voted against IWR, against all war funding,

against the PATRIOT Act. His name is Dennis Kucinich. He has a plan to end the war in three months, using money that was already allocated before the recent funding bill was passed to bring the troops home.

Kucinich was speaking out against invading Iraq (AND Iran and South Korea) as early as February 2002. The Bushies didn't roll out their plan for invading Iraq until seven or eight months later. He's been speaking out and working against the war all along. He even sued Bush for illegally invading Iraq. He is definitely not a coward, or a War Democrat. He also has good plans to provide healthcare by opening Medicare to everyone and he would get the US out of NAFTA, CAFTA, SHAFTA, IMF, WTO, and World Bank, bringing jobs back to the US and stopping the exploitation of the poor in other countries. He'd also do away with the PATRIOT Act and restore voting by paper ballots, hand-counted, in the US. There's a lot more he has planned but I'll try not to make this too long.

If Dennis Kucinich can get his message out to the voters, I believe he can win in 2008. People are sick of the war, sick of politics as usual, and looking for someone who's not owned by corporate interests.

But Dennis needs money to get his message out and he needs people complaining to the media and to their sponsors about the corporate-owned media marginalizing his candidacy. Keith Olbermann is even playing that game now, probably because of his friend Dana Milbank. Please send Dennis some money and complain to the media about their treatment of him.

I've been paying attention to politics since 1959, voting since 1968, and I really do not believe that any of the "top three" candidates in either party are going to be elected president in 2008. I think people are looking for someone who has experience in Washington but who is not just another insider and is not going to continue the war. Ron Paul could be that guy for the GOP but I'm afraid Fred Thompson may enter the race, win the nomination, promise to end the war and then, once elected, bomb Iran, like Nixon promised to end the war in Viet Nam and then bombed Cambodia.

Dennis Kucinich is our best hope. Let's not lose another election by "playing to the center." Dennis is progressive but keeps getting elected in a Republican district because he knows how to give voters what they need and want.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 05:21 AM
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20. K & R
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 05:27 AM
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21. You would have preferred that Clinton and Obama voted FOR the war funding?
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