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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 09:39 PM
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ACLU: Prosecuting WikiLeaks For Publishing Documents Would Raise Serious Constitutional Concerns


Prosecuting WikiLeaks For Publishing Documents Would Raise Serious Constitutional Concerns, Says ACLU
December 1, 2010

NEW YORK – According to news reports, the government is looking into whether it could prosecute WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange under the Espionage Act for publishing classified government documents he obtained from a third party. WikiLeaks, along with multiple news outlets, published thousands of pages of U.S. diplomatic cables on Sunday. The American Civil Liberties Union said that prosecuting WikiLeaks would have serious First Amendment implications.

The following can be attributed to Hina Shamsi, Director of the ACLU National Security Project:

“We’re deeply skeptical that prosecuting WikiLeaks would be constitutional, or a good idea. The courts have made clear that the First Amendment protects independent third parties who publish classified information. Prosecuting WikiLeaks would be no different from prosecuting the media outlets that also published classified documents. If newspapers could be held criminally liable for publishing leaked information about government practices, we might never have found out about the CIA’s secret prisons or the government spying on innocent Americans. Prosecuting publishers of classified information threatens investigative journalism that is necessary to an informed public debate about government conduct, and that is an unthinkable outcome.

“The broader lesson of the WikiLeaks phenomenon is that President Obama should recommit to the ideals of transparency he invoked at the beginning of his presidency. The American public should not have to depend on leaks to the news media and on whistleblowers to know what the government is up to.”

http://www.aclu.org/free-speech-national-security/prosecuting-wikileaks-publishing-documents-would-raise-serious-constit



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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 09:41 PM
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1. If they go after Wikileaks, they have to go after their lapdogs at NYTs:
"Prosecuting WikiLeaks would be no different from prosecuting the media outlets that also published classified documents."
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 09:42 PM
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2. That last paragraph I can totaly get behind
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 09:47 PM
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6. Me too - why not make WikiLeaks unnecessary? nt
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 10:19 PM
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9. So can I.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 09:42 PM
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3. what crime did they commit?
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 09:46 PM
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4. Let's see ..... espionage, subversion, un-Americanism, terriorist activity, comminist pinkoism,

expressing bad thoughts, whistle blowing,evil doing and government transparency.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 03:35 AM
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12. Plus rabble rousing, being independent minded,
Failing to applaud public figures, laying blame where blame is due, exposing mindless preoccupation of so many at the State Dept who are labeling every other gossip item as "Top Secret" and on and on.

Don't know who these Wikileaks Evil Doers think they are, but they should stop (if they know what is good for them!)
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:20 AM
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15. That's right!
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 09:46 PM
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5. None. But Senator Feinstein is willing to pass a retroactive one.
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 09:51 PM
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7. K & R
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 10:01 PM
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8. Interpol's "Red Notice" alert on Julian Assange. One would think he's an international terrorist!
Edited on Thu Dec-02-10 10:04 PM by Better Believe It


INTERPOL media release 01 December 2010

Sweden authorizes INTERPOL to make public Red Notice for WikiLeaks founder
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ASSANGE
Julian Paul

LYON, France - INTERPOL has made public the Red Notice, or international wanted persons alert, for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange at the request of Swedish authorities who want to question him in connection with a number of sexual offences.

The Red Notice for the 39-year-old Australian, which was issued to law enforcement in all 188 INTERPOL member countries on 20 November, has now been made publicly available by INTERPOL following official authorization by Sweden.

All INTERPOL National Central Bureaus (NCBs) have also been advised to ensure that their border control agencies are made aware of Assange's Red Notice status, which is a request for any country to identify or locate an individual with a view to their provisional arrest and extradition.

Many of INTERPOL's member countries however, consider a Red Notice a valid request for provisional arrest, especially if they are linked to the requesting country via a bilateral extradition treaty. In cases where arrests are made based on a Red Notice, these are made by national police officials in INTERPOL member countries.

INTERPOL cannot demand that any member country arrests the subject of a Red Notice. Any individual wanted for arrest should be considered innocent until proven guilty.

http://www.interpol.int/Public/ICPO/PressReleases/PR2010/PR101.asp

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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 10:21 PM
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10. And since when in recent history have constitutional concerns stopped anyone?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 10:35 PM
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11. "We’re deeply skeptical that prosecuting WikiLeaks would be constitutional, or a good idea. "
That is not a definitive statement. I think the ACLU is trying to walk the line on transparency and whistleblowing, but certainly they don't believe that there are no actions that are illegal or represent criminal mischief?

Wiretapping is illegal. Why is releasing confidential discussions acceptable, especially when no crime is involved?

<...>

Without whistleblowers such as Wikileaks who disclosed illegal activity, we wouldn’t know, among other things, about:

<...>

There is certainly a narrow category of information that the government should be able to keep secret in order to protect national security and for other purposes. But the reality is that much more information has been classified by the U.S. government than should be, and information is often classified not for legitimate security reasons, but for political reasons — to protect the government from embarrassment, to manipulate public opinion or even to conceal evidence of criminal activity. When too much information is classified, it becomes more and more difficult to separate the information that should be made public from the information that is legitimately classified.

What the Wikileaks phenomenon means in the longer term — and how the government will respond — is still open to question. But two things are already clear. First, to reduce incentives for leaks, the government should provide safe avenues for government employees to report abuse, fraud and waste to the appropriate authorities and to Congress. Second, the Obama administration should recommit to the ideals the president invoked when he first came to office: “The government should not keep information confidential merely because public officials might be embarrassed by disclosure, because errors and failures might be revealed, or because of speculative or abstract fears.”

more

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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 03:44 AM
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14. I support the freedom of the press. Why was it legal for Mark Felts to give the information he did?
or Ellsberg for that matter?
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 03:41 AM
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13. K & R nt
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:27 AM
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16. Don't you think that given all that's happened in the past 10 yrs, we're a bit beyond "concerns"?
It's "just a piece of goddamn paper" to quote the leading theorist of the post-Constitutional government, and it doesn't mean a goddamn thing anymore if it ever did.

They can do whatever they want. And you will take it.
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