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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 08:47 AM
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Just in Time for Christmas Glenn Beck Calls The Suffering of the Poor A Lie
While defending the rich, and claiming that they don’t get justice Beck “debunked” the “lie” that the poor are suffering. Beck said, “When you get things for free you don’t appreciate them. We don’t appreciate the things we have, and I mean even me, we don’t appreciate our country because it was handed to us. Instead, we just long for things other people have. We never have enough. We shouldn’t begrudge millionaires or billionaires. Our grandparents would have taught us that we could be the next millionaire or billionaire. Hell, it’s America.”

Then Beck attacked the poor, “We’re often told about the plight of the poor in America, and there is poverty in America, but let’s put it into perspective here. The poor in America 97% of them have television sets, 25% of those television sets are big screens. That’s poverty? 89% have a microwave. 80% have an air conditioning unit. 73% of the poor in America have a car. 64% have a washer. 57% of have a dryer. We have been sold a lie that that’s not enough. How much is enough? What is economic justice? Do I need to remind Americans what poor really looks like? I got news for you in other countries they’re not washing their clothes and sitting in air conditioning watching their big screen TV’s. They’re dying. That is poor.”

After comparing today’s poor to the Great Depression, Beck claimed that the poor are just greedy, “What’s poverty in America today? Well, we just want our stuff.” The point Beck was trying to make, just hours before millions of Americans lost their unemployment benefits was that the poor aren’t really poor. They are greedy people who want more stuff, but who don’t want to work to pay for it. Beck’s message to all of the people who are facing the prospect of going hungry this Christmas is to stop being greedy and get to work.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/beck-the-poor
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:02 AM
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1. Insane. And half the country believes his nonsensical ramblings,
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:21 AM
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6. Not even half. Most Republicans I know think he is a crackpot idiot.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:03 AM
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2. And 95% of all statistics are made up on the spot
Why do people watch him? I guess it is like a car wreck, people are just quite morbid..
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:08 AM
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3. Just posted on FB with this message (I have quite a few Beck fans on there, sadly)

The "stuff" that many people want nowadays are a reliable roof over their heads, food, reliable transportation to get to and from work (or looking for work), life-saving medication and healthcare.

Sorry, Beck and Company, this welfare queen crap isn't cutting it. Many of your own listeners are in need of gainful employment (most people DO want to pay their own way in this world) and want these same basic things, so keep talking until they start to wake up and smell the coffee and realize you're just a shill like the others, selling your food insurance and gold, earning mega-millions through your own distorted, pathetic reality show."


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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:51 AM
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11. A huge number of conservative 'christians' worship Beck.
Even though Beck is earning his millions 'bearing false witness against his neighbors' he is idolized by right wing 'Christians'. I know a lot of them and it sickens me how they lap at Beck's every word even though almost all of it is a lie and he routinely breaks the Ten Commandments. But right wing Christians are so stupid and ignorant that they even had Beck speak at (Jerry Falwell's) Liberty University last May. Not one of the religious dolts in the audience left or protested Beck's appearance. These fake Christians go to their extremist churches on Sundays to learn hate and then listen to Beck, right wing radio and faux noise all the following week to gorge themselves of hate, racism, rage, lies and delusion.

Beck has a huge Christian following from fundamentalists who would support any damned fool if they said they were 'born again'. That's why these imbeciles voted for Bush. Im about to eliminate a lot of the 'friend's' I have on Facebook because they fill up their pages with quotes from the bible and constantly attack the poor, the vulnerable and the sick, while mindlessly touting unbridled capitalism. They believe corporations shouldn't have any regulations to make sure they don't harm anyone. They believe CEOs are people who god has blessed with superior gifts and knowledge. Everything they say is the exact opposite of what Jesus taught but they claim to be morally superior to everyone.

How do you fight stupid? These right wingers are a cult. They are in a cultish religion and even their conservative beliefs are cultish. I consider right wing Christians to be dangerous to out country. Their profound ignorance is a threat to all of us.

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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:54 AM
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12. Hopefully they, as a whole, can be labeled a hate group soon...

along with Family Research Council.

Beck listeners, Limbaugh listeners, all should have the label of hate group, imho.

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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:58 AM
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15. Absolutely. They ARE a hate group.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:50 AM
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21. Anyone can be labelled a hate group, because it's not a well-defined label.
It's a less dangerous piece of terminology than "hate speech", but still one I think is best avoided.

If you're casting your net as wide as right-wing Christians, though, the term "group" isn't applicable, regardless of "hate".
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:55 AM
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24. I know that, logically, you're correct.
:)

I was just venting, though there probably is a way to more narrowly define a particular group within the more extreme judgmental and, yes, hateful umbrella of right-wing Christians which would fit the bill.



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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:17 AM
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4. Wanting something like money is not always greed.
Edited on Fri Dec-03-10 09:18 AM by RandomThoughts
It also depends what you would do for it.


And he is lying to himself.

He wants to say that free market capitalism helps the poor in other countries, it only does that to a level where they are able to produce in a system for a profit for someone else.

If 10 people are starving, you can offer 5 of them the absolute minimum in freedom, education, lack of fear from health issues, and the minimum in wages to work.

The starving helps to keep labor cost low, or profits higher, he does not understand that he supports race to the bottom.


There is enough production capacity to make the world a really good place, but the system he likes does not want that because people would have time to think and feel, would not be afraid, and would be better educated. And would be able to demand more of the potential output of products possible.

And honestly trade is to consume oil for profit of some groups, and waste production in transportation cost. Is a side effect also of demand being lower then production, and one of the effects created from capitalism with more production then demand to try and balance that error.

If he cared about the poverty in third world countries, then why aren't they making the products for themselves instead of countries in 'developed' nations? Local production and self sustainable economies really are a good idea.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:18 AM
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5. there's a lot one could say about this, but I'll pick just one
"64% have a washer. 57% have a dryer."

So at least 7% of the poor (however it's defined here) have a washer but not a dryer? Do people do that? It sort of sounds like he's just making up numbers.
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JackintheGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:28 AM
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7. Um...I had a washer for a year+ w/o a dryer
My dryer broke. I couldn't afford to replace it and it wasn't worth the money to fix, what with the SUN and the WIND drying things for free outside. Or I'd wash clothes at home then carry them wet to the laundromat to dry.

We've family friends that also don't have a dryer, but they do have a washer. They also dry clothes outside, weather permitting.

So I only need to think of 30 more families that I know and the two of us make 7%.

I'm not saying Beck doesn't make shit up. Obviously he does. But I would not immediately discount this number. Seems reasonable to me. Maybe the only reasonable part of the 'argument'.
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Esurientes Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:32 AM
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10. I still use a clothesline.
>So at least 7% of the poor (however it's defined here) have a washer but not a dryer? Do people do >that?

I only have a washer. The former owners of my house installed the w/d connections in such a way that I'd block my very nice, enormous pantry if I put in a standard dryer or block my kitchen window if I put in a stacked unit. In bad weather I just hang laundry on the shower rod.

Did Beck grow up poor? I couldn't bring myself to read "The Christmas Sweater" but friends did, and from the way they described the book, I thought it was a sob story about how he was such an underprivileged young'un.
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:00 AM
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16. Everything he says is made up, but his moronic listeners lap it all up...
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:28 AM
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8. So now he's applying the greedy tag on the poor?
Do you see how crazy our country has become? Up is down. Rich are victimized; Poor are greedy.
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sadbear Donating Member (799 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:31 AM
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9. It's only class warfare when you criticize the rich
:sarcasm:
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:38 AM
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18. Oh snap! I'm going to quote you. That's brilliant! :) n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:56 AM
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13. Ignorant lump.
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:57 AM
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14. Here's an example of how a Beck worshipper thinks... He hates the poor too.
I know an extreme right wing conservative fanatic. He posted on Facebook how he was looking for advice on what was the best handgun to buy and wanted to spend $500-$600 for one. Then he was going to get a concealed carry permit for additional money. He obviously doesn't put his trust in the Lord, but rather a deadly weapon. He is a Becaholic who believes everything Beck says and that included Beck's lie about Obama wanting to take everyone's guns away. 

This 'Christian' constantly condemns the poor, the sick and the unemployed. He believes they are all irresponsible. He even said if a person wearing a gold necklace arrived at an emergency room they shouldn't be treated, because it was obvious that having a necklace was proof of that person's irresponsibility. But this hypocritical right wing Christian didn't even have medical insurance for his wife and three small children. Yeah, that's right, he was wanting to buy a deadly weapon rather than use that $600 to get medical insurance. 

From what I've witnessed about right wing, conservative Christians this kind of story is typical. They readily condemn others when they are irresponsible themselves. It's obvious they never read or understood the part in their Bibles about removing the plank from their own eyes before trying to remove the splinters from others. And it's also obvious they love to judge and condemn others. In this person's case he would be a one man 'death panel' who would stand watch at emergency rooms and determine who gets treated depending on what they wore or what jewelry they had on. 

Oh yeah, one more thing: When his daughter was born she was in intensive care for almost a month and he didn't pay a dime toward the expenses. Isn't it about time we start to expose these heartless, soulless hypocrites for the kind of people they really are? They thump their Bibles without having a clue what is contained inside. They are hypocrites of the highest magnitude. They profess to be followers of Jesus, but they hate all of the things Jesus taught. Their lack of compassion for others is not just unChristian, it's evil. 
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:37 AM
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17. And most of those things he listed can be had as beat-up hand-me-downs
Or cheap at garage sales, auctions, pawn shops, or free on Craigslist.

97% have TV's? A 10-yr old TV watching over-the-air channels is a far cheaper source of entertainment than most other things one can do when poor. And unless I see a source for "25% are bigscreens" I call bullshit (unless poor people picked up all the old bigscreen TV's for cheap when we switched to HDTV).

89% have a microwave? Far cheaper to use than heating up an oven every time you want to make a meal.

73% of the poor have a car? Beaten-up, rusted-out death traps, you mean? Does he expect us to believe the poor are rolling in Escalades? And, how else does he expect those poor to get around in the US today, since he and his ilk have CONSISTENTLY opposed expanding public transportation?

64% have a washer and 57% have a dryer? Again, 10-yr old, beat-up models constantly in need of repair. Going to the laundromat every week is more expensive than a used washer and dryer. Or does Beck just expect the poor to walk around in soiled clothes daily?
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:43 AM
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19. Why don't bad things happen to bad people?
Beck is among the WORST.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:48 AM
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20. Anyone know where those numbers come from? N.T.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:54 AM
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22. From Beck's ass???
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 12:03 PM
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30. I meant before that... N.T.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 10:55 AM
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23. He is speaking for the average middle class Republican
Who desperately wants to believe this.
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 11:09 AM
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25. A Beck Addict suggested no one wearing jewelry should be treated in an emergency room.
He thought if someone wore jewelry or a watch it was a sign on irrssponsibility and shouldn't be treated. He wanted to be a one man death panel. And this guy loves Palin and Beck. He's not the brightest bulb on the tree but he thinks he is. He's just ONE MORE fake Christian. I reminded him of the Good Samaritan and he called that 'puffery'. It's sad so many millions of christians have so much hate toward their fellow man. The more right wing a Christian is the more they hate people. But for some bizarre reason they love the rich. They don't seem to agree with Jesus on anything.

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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 11:13 AM
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26. And in those countries where the poor are poor enough for Glenn's sensibilities,
people as rich as Beck have to live in armed fortresses and in constant fear of their loved ones being kidnapped.

I think the asshole should move his precious family to Somalia where the poor are destitute enough not to offend Glenn.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 11:23 AM
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27. I wonder, how many gold-plated toilets do the billionaires 'need'?
Or private islands? Or whatever. Just what would be ENOUGH for THEM? That's what I'd like to know.


Taking even more from the poor to shift even more to the ultra-rich cannot be justified - in any way shape or form,

IT. JUST. WON'T. FLY. To even discuss that at all, is to go into the irrational.




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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 11:29 AM
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28. 100% of homeless people in shelters have a TV.
Of course they share it with 25 other people and it is probably tuned to FAUX NEWS, but hey!
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 11:33 AM
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29. K&R
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