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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:10 PM
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It reminds me of someone who thinks if they are super nice to their abuser, their abuser will stop
beating them up.

Mitchy isn't going to play nice, Mr President, just because you were nice to him. Neither is Palin, or Rush or Beck or Boner or Cantor or .....

Nope, instead you showed them how to walk all over you.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:11 PM
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1. I highly HIGHLY recommend you read Frank Rich's Sunday column
about Obama and Stockholm Syndrome.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:12 PM
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Ok - thanks :)
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:13 PM
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4. Linked it below for you.
Let me know what you think!
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:12 PM
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2. I prefer the petting a mean dog and he bites you analogy.
If you pet a mean dog and he bites you and you keep sticking your hand out only to have it bitten each time......Is it the dogs fault?
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:12 PM
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3. Here's the link to the Rich OpEd
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/05/opinion/05rich.html?_r=1&hp
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:18 PM
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8. Thanks - I bookmarked it and will read it tomorrow when I have more time...
and a clearer head! (hopefully :))
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IRemember Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:14 PM
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5. This is nonsense.
Edited on Mon Dec-06-10 11:17 PM by IRemember
He isn't timid or weak. He wants to pass neoliberal legislation. All of this is theater. He wants to extend the tax cuts for the wealthy. HELLO? Who were the primary funders of his campaign? The financial institutions. He is an extremely pro-business Democrat, much like Mr. Clinton.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:22 PM
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10. If I recall, Mr Clinton (with all of his faults)
raised taxes on the wealthy and left us with a surplus.

Yes, we have NAFTA, Gramm–Leach–Bliley, DADT and DOMA - but what prey tell, has Mr. Obama (a) made it better (b) status quo or (c) B + made it worse?

One can only wonder what he promised India, S Korea and Indonesia (et al) last month on his 'business building' tour.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:22 PM
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12. It is either 1) he can't or 2) he won't. Either way the result is the same.
Neoliberal is not a good thing. At least Clinton really did boost the middle class. I would take Bill Clinton over this any day of the week.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:16 PM
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6. Here is another theory for you.
(BTW, love the EE avitar. God love her and keep her in comfort during this time...)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9704237&mesg_id=9704286
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:18 PM
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7. I guess you would have called Mandela weak, then.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:23 PM
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13. Why the comparison?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:27 PM
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16. What? That's like comparing Apples and Pomegranates.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:21 PM
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9. I feel like we voters are the abused ones.
We keep making excuses for the man who disappoints time and time again. "But I love him!!!" At least he should give us flowers and candy and a massage.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:23 PM
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14. WE did not fail him. He failed us.
but I believe he sort of means well.

There's something we don't know about why we -the American working class- are getting sold down the river. There is something we don't know why we don't matter.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:22 PM
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11. Obama was a hard-knuckle Chicago politician - not a babe in the woods and not a victim
He knows exactly what he's doing.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:26 PM
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15. I don't think he did. Look at his face lately.
The President's expression looks stunned, shocked, but not frozen. He knows something he isn't telling us. It would be better if he did. I believe we could take it. He's hurting himself by hiding the truth, whatever it is.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:29 PM
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17. I agree he knows the 'truth'
whatever that is.

It would be nice to know the real story behind his presidential campaign.
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