I'm sorry, I'm fed up to here (see me waving my hand as high above my head as it'll go)

with being called out by our Democratic president. Time and again he has sided with corporations over Americans who desperately need help. Time and again he has given in to Republican demands with little to no battle over Republican American-killing policies. And time and again the only people he blames for his failings are those who try to hold him to his promises, to being the man he said he was, and to the promise to stand up to the corporatocracy & plutocracy on behalf of the 98& of Americans who aren't part of those "elites."

We were called out again today -- WE were the ones he expressed the greatest frustration about. Even today he cites the public option as an example of how intemperate, illogical, unreasonable, divisive, ungrateful, impractical & downright foolish liberals are.

So he was the one who brought up the public option again as an example of how much liberals suck. Here we have a man who promised transparency but met behind closed doors with representatives of private hospitals, health insurance corporations and big pharma. At the same time, he resolutely refused to meet with physicians and other professionals who advocated single payer health care. And he doesn't get why people who fucking believed him are pissed? He doesn't get why people are pissed at this sellout to the insurance industry he once damned? Jesus, at least fucking listen to -- maybe you'll learn something and come up with a plan infinitely better than the one you did, the one that sold us out to the health care profiteers (you know, the ones you used to cite as so evil when you talked about U.S. health care). But no, he shut the door on those representatives.

And he has shut the door on us. It opens only long enough for him to degrade and disparage us. And it opens again when he wants something, like volunteers and campaign cash. But it is otherwise slammed shut.

I'm fed up with it. Fed up, discouraged, disgusted, outraged and enraged, saddened, indignant, seething, disconsolate.....not what I expected to be feeling when I happily went into that voting booth in 2008. Not even remotely close to what I expected.

:hug:

Grayson/Feingold 2012

I cannot wait till they are in office, and they appoint Michael Moore as Surgeon General!

Howard Dean? Now there's a start of an administration I could get behind! Unfortunately, they've all lost their elections...how would that change in 2012? (I'd actually go for Feingold/Grayson even more.)

The Big Pharmaceuticals, as I have heard that he is.

Moore has his own Millions of dollars and no one can influence him.

And although I sure wouldn't want MM taking out my grand daughter's tonsils, that is not the purview of the office of Surgeon general.

That office has to do with truth, like back in the sixties when the Surgeon General's office, against all sorts of different pressures from Big Nicotine, was unrelenting. That Surgeon General got his way with seeing to it that warnings went on packages of cigarettes. These warning were labeled by many in the media as "unscientific and without proof" but we have all come to see how accurate the warnings were.

Just when you thought it couldn't get worse.

The duo would spend all their time fighting over who could shoot the next poor moose - Obama needing the kill so the Republicans would think he looks strong, and Palin not wanting someone else to get a taste of blood that she can get for herself.

The spin of the corporate media and lefty blogs criticizing President Obama incessantly day in and day out are working on your supple mind. Shit, you pull up HuffPo and 9 times out of 10 there's some incendiary headline about how President Obama has fucked us. I refuse to be manipulated - looking at his record and what he's accomplished does wonders in dispelling a lot of the BS out there.

I am so damn done with him. How dare he excoriate us, his base, and cater to the rethugs? Obama would have us believe that the whole Democratic party is out of step, and that he is the one who has it all figured out. Right. Everyone in the army is out of step but him.

FAIL

:thumbsdown:

I was a dem before he was born.

No way does he represent me or the generations of my family who voted straight Democratic.

-Laelth

2012 will be like 1980 all over again.

We perceive President Obama as being weak just as we perceived President Carter as being weak.

Ted Kennedy ran against President Carter. I don't remember a healing after the primary.

We got President Reagan, and voodoo (supply side) economics, for eight years.

The "incumbent" starts with an edge in the primary.
It will be difficult to challenge President Obama in the primary and win.
A primary challenge would almost certainly lead to a loss in the 2012 Presidential Election.

Is it worth it? It might be.

If President Obama wins re-election, he'll continue to govern the same way. He will be weak.
He will sell out our principles--I still want to know what his principles are--to the Republicans.

If President Obama wins the Democratic Primary in 2012, he will lose the general election.
Republicans have painted President Obama as being weak. The population believes he is weak.

The only way to avoid this disaster would be for President Obama to voluntarily not run for re-election.

Some will argue, telling people you aren't going to run for re-election will make you a lame duck.
President Obama is perceived as weak. What difference would it make if he were a lame duck?
Could he be any weaker if he were a lame duck?

Maybe, if he were a lame duck, he would have more fight in him.

to my 80 year old mother. She is also very saddened by the president's obvious disregard for the people who voted for him. I cannot believe I actually stayed up until midnight with my entire family to watch him on election night. Then like a total fool went to work the next morning at 6:00 A.M. feeling hopeful for the first time in 8 years. I doubt I will ever feel the same way about any politician ever again.

so worried about leaving her kids and grandkids (she was dying of cancer) when Bush was in office and I imagined her being so relieved. I hate to think how they would feel now...and how your mom may feel. Your mom lived through FDR and saw that transformation. She lived through Republicans who have done more for "liberal causes" than this president. And now this. Tell her there are many of us here who share her disappointment. :grouphug:

to my 80 year old mother. She is also very saddened by the president's obvious disregard for the people who voted for him. I cannot believe I actually stayed up until midnight with my entire family to watch him on election night. Then like a total fool went to work the next morning at 6:00 A.M. feeling hopeful for the first time in 8 years. I doubt I will ever feel the same way about any politician ever again.

to my 80 year old mother. She is also very saddened by the president's obvious disregard for the people who voted for him. I cannot believe I actually stayed up until midnight with my entire family to watch him on election night. Then like a total fool went to work the next morning at 6:00 A.M. feeling hopeful for the first time in 8 years. I doubt I will ever feel the same way about any politician ever again.

to my 80 year old mother. She is also very saddened by the president's obvious disregard for the people who voted for him. I cannot believe I actually stayed up until midnight with my entire family to watch him on election night. Then like a total fool went to work the next morning at 6:00 A.M. feeling hopeful for the first time in 8 years. I doubt I will ever feel the same way about any politician ever again.

to my 80 year old mother. She is also very saddened by the president's obvious disregard for the people who voted for him. I cannot believe I actually stayed up until midnight with my entire family to watch him on election night. Then like a total fool went to work the next morning at 6:00 A.M. feeling hopeful for the first time in 8 years. I doubt I will ever feel the same way about any politician ever again.

to my 80 year old mother. She is also very saddened by the president's obvious disregard for the people who voted for him. I cannot believe I actually stayed up until midnight with my entire family to watch him on election night. Then like a total fool went to work the next morning at 6:00 A.M. feeling hopeful for the first time in 8 years. I doubt I will ever feel the same way about any politician ever again.