Would it be politically best for the Rethugs to kill the tax bill?

It seems if the Dems would prod them to do this, then a more effective message could be built upon not only how greedy these people are, but also how they simply refuse to compromise on anything.

It just doesn't seem as if the WH has taken the lead on this issue like it should have and has let a big group of small yapping dogs do the annoying barking instead of one huge, loud growl from the WH (heck, look at the press Obama got by starting another fight with the left side of the party).

Why cut a deal with Obama with Democratic majorities voting?

They will almost certainly get a better deal in 2011.

Wouldn't be too hard because that meme already exists. Then Obama's dreams of 2012 go up in a cloud of smoke.

Face facts...people vote due to the jobs - unrealistic - but Obama was the first president to get to correct the problem.

Even though a major problem was that the States did not take all the stimulus (The stimulus is about 100 different categories you can chose from - some states, like California took as much as they could even though Arnie wasn't going to at first- Others, with Republican Governors did not take all that was allowed)...

So the Purpose of the Fast Rail was to create jobs...Think of how many that would have created! Laying track, building depots, snack cars and snaks bought, cleaning people to clean inside and out, Train staff...and they sell tickets...so money come in! but at least 2 Republican Governors now want to return the money...because "Ohio is not a state that needs such a thing" - per the governor...how about a train going through Chicago to Madison?

Talk about bring tourist to your town!...But these lame excuses never address the jobs that were never created because the governor did not take the funds....I read that only 1/2 the available stimulus funds were taken....How can you create jobs when too many Republicans are are playing games or the average citizen has been scared to death that it is a debt we can't handle...For our GDP of 14 Trillion, we should, with decent taxes and no more Cayman/Swiss bank accounts, do fine

What is wrong with this guy....I have know black folks that have learned to just be nice because it keeps them out of trouble...but THIS IS NOT WHAT ANYONE EVER EXPECTED FROM HIM.....HE JUST DOESN'T FIGHT!!!

per year from the middle class right now?

I think the Democrats will kill the tax bill.

If the tax bill is killed, Republicans will say;
(1) They had a deal and Democrats can not be trusted to fulfill their bargains.
(2) Democrats enacted the biggest tax increase in history.

Then, by January 20, Republicans in the House will pass some ridiculous tax cut bill that Democrats can not accept. I suspect that they will pass a tax cut bill a month to show how Democrats always vote to raise taxes.

I see very little good comeing from this, no matter which way it goes.

The party who can seem the most credible in their desire to cut taxes will always win. It doesn't actually matter if it causes a deficit, that requires too much long-range thinking.

If Obama can get out in front of this and work on telling the American people that "he" proposed a deal to the Republicans, but that they killed it and this was such a "fair" deal that even the most vocal in his own party were against it.

My thought is, who ever can show they tried the hardest and get the American people to believe it, whether it is true or not, then that side will come out better on this dispute.

She is not going to be able to convince the Republicans this is bad....she has no clout....The stink is to get your mind of the Tax Breaks and bring them to the unemployment issue.....

They want this so bad, they could cry....DO NOT EVEN THINK THAT THE REPUBLICANS WILL PULL OUT. The news is showing more and more Democrats stating they will not vote for it...and if they are getting email - like I sent, they are getting a real good feeling about how their constituents feel...

They don't like us, they will never like us....it doesn't matter how nice we are, it will never be any different...

Call you Congress....Please

are opposed to this, as are most of the other talk radio hosts that drive Republican opinion.

Becuse of the recognized conservative bias in the media their message will dominate.

extreme left thinks it a victory for the GOP.

mark

This is the last straw....I have supported him with every plan he has tried to push through....I have see compromise after compromise with the Public Option, with the Wall Street self funding bail out account....and this is toooooo much. It got us where we are today and it time to play their game and say NO

Because the middle-class will see a waaaaaay better deal in 2011.

C'mon.

If we did have the money for the last 10 years, It's not going to make much difference now.....And if the big complaint is the DEBT...then I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO CONTRIBUTE MY INCREASE....REALLY....DON'T YOU SEE IT THAT WAY? Give up the fight to keep the lower tax cuts...because that is a small price to pay for what our country will gain....RESPECT MAYBE!

People need to understand the Republican leaders don't give a shit about their well-being - only for the interests of their base, the "haves" and "have mores," in Bush's words. I remember that they held the last increase in the minimum wage hostage for some benefit for the rich too. Now they hold unemployment hostage. It's astonishing that they can make this kind of crass, heartless, deal in public and few people get that they can do this only because they don't care about the welfare of the citizens they represent.

They put on an unhappy face about the unemployment...but compared to the TAX Cuts...it is just smoke and mirrors.....They will not let this deal go....Any one watch the Young Turks...boy was Cenk mad...not one deal besides the unemployment was throw in...not THE START, not the DREAM ACT....NOTHING....THIS IS BAD NEWS...CALL YOU SENATORS, HOUSE REPS, YOUR LOCAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY (I have been calling all morning and it has been busy - GET MAD....WE AS INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO BECAUSE IT SURE SEEMS PRESIDE OBAMA HAS LOST IT!!!

yOU CAN ACTUALLY SHUT DOWN THE EMAIL SYSTEM BY BOMBARDING IT...EMAIL THE WHITE HOUSE TIL YOU CAN'T GET INTO THE SITE ANYMORE....GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS...THE PEOPLE DO NOT APPROVE!!!!!

vote against it, just to leave the Democrats holding the baby (i.e. responsibility for increasing the deficit).

(That seems to be the Repubs' MO - negotiate in bad faith, water a bill down, then vote against it.)

You have to live in some sort of fairy land to not see, Republicans only want one thing...more money to the rich.... no increases to the deficit, unless it helps the wealthy. I do hope something catastrophic happens in America to stop this type of logic...