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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 02:56 PM Original message |
"Abandon Julian Assange and you abandon the bedrock of our republic: the public’s right to know" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. K&R |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. There is a difference between journalism and espionage |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Assange did exactly as the NYT does everyday. And that is journalism. |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I've heard that covering the crime is worse than the crime |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. exactly--that is the position you must take if you are against Wikileaks. |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
44. Actually something along those lines goes back to WWII |
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ChumbawambaFan (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 04:20 AM Response to Reply #44 |
56. From 4 people killed by ONE balloon in OR? (If memory serves.) |
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ChumbawambaFan (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 02:41 AM Response to Reply #56 |
89. Or... |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 06:07 AM Response to Reply #44 |
59. Apples and oranges, denying intelligence to an enemy you're at war with |
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daleanime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #59 |
85. Oops.... |
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daleanime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #59 |
86. Bingo! |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 09:54 AM Response to Reply #44 |
67. The Japanese plan was NOT to kill people but to start huge forest fires |
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molly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 09:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
66. From the Guardian |
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madmax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #66 |
72. In 2000 that's where I went to find out wtf was going on here |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. If information fell into his lap, and he published it, that's espionage? |
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ChumbawambaFan (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 04:25 AM Response to Reply #9 |
57. A decent article on the American Espionage Act... |
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BlueMTexpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 08:43 AM Response to Reply #57 |
63. I heart the Guardian generally. Thanks for your link. nt |
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Iterate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. If not this, then what is journalism? |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. "Espionage" is whatever rulers claim "espionage" is. Do you also think he's engaged in subversion, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 01:31 AM Response to Reply #11 |
52. Thank you!!! Labels are used to demonize people... and they have to be challenged!!! |
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14thColony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. Quite convenient |
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bomberman (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. Then why is the MSM reporting it? |
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Frisbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. Just because Julian's information did not... |
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Lord Magus (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
42. Did the NY Times commit espionage by publishing the Pentagon Papers? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 01:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
51. There's a difference between a people's government and fascism.... |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 07:53 AM Response to Reply #2 |
61. Then you agree with Joe-the-moron- Lieberman that we must |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 08:53 AM Response to Reply #2 |
65. You get to decide that? |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
71. What Assange did is called PUBLICATION, not Espionage. Wikileaks did not steal anything. |
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Raschel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. I read that the state department was offered the opportunity to redact and vet |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 02:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
88. LOL. That is exactly what they said when the Washington Post ran their article on Watergate. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
6. K&R |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
7. If he's found guilty of rape I'll abandon him in a flat second. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 01:54 AM Response to Reply #7 |
53. You mean you won't support Assange personally in the court case ....? |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 02:21 AM Response to Reply #7 |
54. Agree but... |
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sirthomas66 (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 10:07 AM Response to Reply #54 |
70. It is totally bogus. |
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Raschel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #70 |
81. It's been kind of quiet on that front. The online buzz showing most people not believing the charge |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
8. Thank you...KnR |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
12. Craziest thread title of the week |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Did you read the article? Robert Scheer lost his LAT job to the Reichwinger Jonah Goldberg. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
82. When the LA Times fired Scheer, I fired the LA Times (cancelled |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
13. Is this guy still in the news? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Better get used to it. |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. What did our Gov't do besides laugh it off? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Have you been in a coma? |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 05:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. ROFL |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
14. K&R |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
15. Thank you. |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
17. K&R'd |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
18. Makes me want to stand on a street corner and read this loudly to passers-by. |
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strawberryfield (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
23. Too bad Assange and the internet didn't exist in George Washington's time |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 07:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. LOL. Conservative snitches would have beat him to it by a mile. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #32 |
83. Back in those days, they were 'Tory snitches' - he, he - n/t |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 10:47 PM Response to Reply #23 |
40. Assange is not an American. |
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plantwomyn (779 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #40 |
75. What caught my attention |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. Wonder if that's true, Time to get Yoo back on the payroll! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
25. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Deleted message |
Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. LOL. I love it when you people get your panties in a snit over Assange. |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
28. The public does *not* automatically have a right to know the contents of confidential communications |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 08:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. We need to award the Medal of Freedom to those that got the material to Assange |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #28 |
43. OK, so Assange is not an American citizen. He is not subject to our laws. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 12:44 AM Response to Reply #28 |
50. The FBI still has a secret file on John Lennon and he has been dead for 30 years!! |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 07:00 AM Response to Reply #28 |
60. sorry but there are very few secrets that need to be kept by an honest govt. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
29. Kicked and recommended. |
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davidthegnome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
31. I agree with you |
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madmax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 04:13 AM Response to Reply #31 |
55. Seems something good came out of the Bush Residency |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
34. Recommended. Robert Scheer, you rock. n/t |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
36. abandon the - spokesperson? |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. That's who the opponents of a free press are mainly targeting in case you haven't noticed. |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. no shit - the question is why |
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pmorlan1 (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
37. K & R |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
38. Somebody may have violated American law. That is true. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
45. K&R |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
46. K&R |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
47. K&R |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
48. K & R nt |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
49. Espionage? Oh, for Christ's sake, it's no different than the Patriot Act in reverse! |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #49 |
84. Feinstein has the blood of 1,000,000+ Iraqi civilians dripping from her |
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Roughneck (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 05:14 AM Response to Original message |
58. Abandon Assange and you abandon the bedrock of our republic: the public’s right to know |
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marew (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
62. K & R! |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
64. I love Robert Scheer, he is one of the best. And he too was censored |
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sirthomas66 (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
68. Breathtakingly accurate. |
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Eddie Haskell (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
69. And this |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
73. we have a right to know, but not a right to expose secrets. n/t. |
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Voice for Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
74. Big K&R. This is way bigger than Assange as most of you know. It is shining a bright light |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
76. This sort of repression has been happening for more than 200 years |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
78. Wasn't this same thing said about Bev? |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
79. K&R |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
87. these same journalists |
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