Anger at 'slave trader' Assange: WikiLeaks loyalists decide to break away

Source: The Sydney Morning Herald

"A number of WikiLeaks defectors, including founder Julian Assange's former right-hand man, plan to launch a rival site on Monday after accusing Assange of behaving like "some kind of emperor or slave trader".

With WikiLeaks itself vowing to press on with its leaking regardless of the fate of Assange, it seems that any attempts by US politicians to stop the leaks will be futile.

With WikiLeaks itself vowing to press on with its leaking regardless of the fate of Assange, it seems that any attempts by US politicians to stop the leaks will be futile.

Advertisement: Story continues below The new site, Openleaks, will launch on Monday, respected Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter reported. Like WikiLeaks, it will allow whistleblowers to anonymously leak information to the public, except Openleaks won't host the documents itself, instead acting as an intermediary between whistleblowers and other groups including media organisations.

Several WikiLeaks members abandoned the site following perceived autocratic behaviour by Assange. They said he failed to consult them on many decisions and put himself front and centre in everything WikiLeaks did."






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This is unfortunate at a time when Assange could be fighting for his survival, but one thing it does show is that no
government skullduggery is going to stop the momentum of this movement. It's out of the box now, and administrations
everywhere will have to adapt.

eom

Edit to clarify.

:sarcasm:

(Imagine how awesome that would be?!)

PB

networked together and sharing resources. Nothing like an honest (and anonymous) clerk to keep the governor honest. Backroom private prison deals? No problem, lets all have a look.

edit to delete inappropriate hope.

Assange himself.

for weeks and months so that's not very surprising.

This state is messed up.

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Good for them I say.

Actually I think the comment about him not being with Hackers is a plant to try and get hackers upset. Pretty simple to see that.


This song, from this hatchet I recognize

Molly Hachet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKM_wpaNsOM

A King without a sword
A land without a King
The truth without a voice
One song left to sing
One song to sing

A wise man told me there's something you should know
"The way you judge a man is you look into his soul
And you'll soon see everything".

A voice from the past cried "Give Peace A Chance"
He paid our price now he's free at last
And "Imagine" we called him a dreamer.
How many times must good men die?
How many tears will the children cry?
Till we suffer no more sadness
Stop the madness,
Oh stop the madness.

If ashes are ashes and dust is dust
And our journey's end and then we turn we must
To the sands of the shore
White doves then fly
Peace to all

Tell me why the peacemakers fall
Must we bury anymore
A hush in the crowd as the horse rode by
Black lace veil hid the tears from her eyes
And we all wept in silence

How many times must good men die?
How many times will the children cry?
Till we suffer no more sadness
Oh stop the madness
Oh stop all the madness.

Does the tax cuts to the rich sound sane to you? Does no beer and travel money sound sane?

Side note, seeing someones soul depends more about your own.

Fisheeee.

It may be a good idea to clone, but some parts of the story just don't match other accounts and statements.

Not that those things matter in the end -it was never about personalities.

hosting the documents was key because it assured the leaker, that if no newspapers published, the documents would be made available to the public. That's key in building trust. The leaker, after all, is the one taking a huge risk. It also assures that if the original newspaper botches or minimizes the story, someone else can pick it up.

And as far as the "single leader" theory goes, they're on record from many sources as having tried it without one and quickly realized they would be characterized as a "shadowy group" and give out mixed messages to boot. As Assange himself said, someone had to step out front to take the heat and leave the others to continue.

I can understand cloning, but now? And let's face it, groups like that tend to have people with overly thought out ethical standards and they are bound to endlessly argue minutiae, but now?

Maybe in the end it was too much talent packed into one room. I guess we've all seen before how that plays out.

Why are they now all of a sudden upset with Assange just as the shit hits the fan? Why won't this new Openleaks thing host the leaks?

If I were a whistle blower I might think twice about using Openleaks. This could easily be some kind of setup; maybe a sting operation. Think about it. Openleaks won't be putting submitted documents on the web. Why?

Sounds like a scam operation to a) entrap would be leakers, and b) try to fuck with Wikileaks. Doesn't make sense at all.

Keep people arguing about Assange's personal merits, discredit the content of the leaks. So obvious.

I think I smell manipulation. I refuse to discuss Assange's character and don't trust anyone who wants to make the story "about" him. He could very well have an ego as big as all outdoors (probably does!), but that's irrelevant considering considering the vital service he provides.

Could they be any more frigging obvious? They must think people are stupid.

I think there are probably some suspicious characters right here on DU. In case anyone thinks I'm pointing fingers, I'm not saying it's anyone in this thread. But no doubt they are around.

I'll bet it's respected from the halls of the Pentagon on down. How stupid do they think we are?





Sounds like journalism for hire.

It's not unusual at all for businesses to split after a few years. Otoh, since Wikileaks is a target of the U.S. right now, they might just want to avoid the heat and it could be an agreement they made, to disperse and keep up the good work.

with the 911 investigators. Now it is so fragmented that everyone has their own forum where only they post because no one trusts each other. Wonder how that happened?:eyes:

Good for them. I think it's bullshit he didn't release it all. They should press ahead without him. This way they can get away from the slime being hurled at Wikileaks and get the information out there. It will take some doing.

And not a single one of them from a respectable paper. Most of them have the sneeringly toned "Key People From Wikileaks Are Ditching "Emperor" Assange To Form A New Site".


The only respectable, know online site that even mentions Domschelt-Berg is the Spiegel but that was in an article dated back in September that Domschelt-Berg was leaving Wikileaks over a disagreement.

The original articles about Domschelt-Berg aka Schmitt say he "was suspended a month ago” by Assange. The new articles are saying he *resigned*. Sounds like a snake in the midst.




There are many words that come to mind when thinking of Domschelt-Berg. One of the is *pragmatic*.

I wonder how well he knew Anna Bernardin aka Anna Ardin.

Oh and he's writing a book. :rofl:

Just editted to add that for "Daniel Schmitt" wikileaks, there are 29,300 results.

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Love how Assange schooled the press here:

<Unless there is a specific reason to doubt a statement, the correct neutral word is "states" not "claims".>


Who says he's not a journalist?

:)