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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 08:16 PM
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NYT: Militants Widen Reach as Terror Seeps Out of Iraq

Militants Widen Reach as Terror Seeps Out of Iraq

By MICHAEL MOSS and SOUAD MEKHENNET
Published: May 28, 2007

When Muhammad al-Darsi got out of prison in Libya last year after serving time for militant activities, he had one goal: killing Americans in Iraq.

A recruiter he found on the Internet arranged to meet him on a bridge in Damascus, Syria. But when he got there, Mr. Darsi, 24, said the recruiter told him he was not needed in Iraq. Instead, he was drafted into the war that is seeping out of Iraq.

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The Iraq war, which for years has drawn militants from around the world, is beginning to export fighters and the tactics they have honed in the insurgency to neighboring countries and beyond, according to American, European and Middle Eastern government officials and interviews with militant leaders in Lebanon, Jordan and London.

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Estimating the number of fighters leaving Iraq is at least as difficult as it has been to count foreign militants joining the insurgency. But early signs of an exodus are clear, and officials in the United States and the Middle East say the potential for veterans of the insurgency to spread far beyond Iraq is significant.

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The group’s leader, Shakir al-Abssi, was an associate of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia who was killed last summer. In an interview with The New York Times earlier this month, Mr. Abssi confirmed reports that Syrian government forces had killed his son-in-law as he tried crossing into Iraq to collaborate with insurgents.

A Danger to the Region

Militant leaders warn that the situation in Lebanon is indicative of the spread of fighters. “You have 50 fighters from Iraq in Lebanon now, but with good caution I can say there are a hundred times that many, 5,000 or higher, who are just waiting for the right moment to act,” Dr. Mohammad al-Massari, a Saudi dissident in Britain who runs the jihadist Internet forum, Tajdeed.net, said in an interview on Friday. “The flow of fighters is already going back and forth, and the fight will be everywhere until the United States is willing to cease and desist.”

There are signs of that traffic in and out of Iraq in other places.

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In an April 17 report written for the United States government, Dennis Pluchinsky, a former senior intelligence analyst at the State Department, said battle-hardened militants from Iraq posed a greater threat to the West than extremists who trained in Afghanistan because Iraq had become a laboratory for urban guerrilla tactics.

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A top American military official who tracks terrorism in Iraq and the surrounding region, and who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the topic, said: “Do I think in the future the jihad will be fueled from the battlefield of Iraq? Yes. More so than the battlefield of Afghanistan.”

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Note to Congress:

It's Bush's dangerous and illegal war in Iraq that increasing terrorist activity and threatening the region


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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 08:19 PM
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1. BushCO created a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Edited on Sun May-27-07 08:39 PM by BrklynLiberal
And their lip-service to fighting "terra terra terra" is only that ...lip-service. It is to their advantage to foment fear and terror around the world. It suits their political agenda, and it makes billions for all their friends who are the arms suppliers and others who make money off scaring the shit out of people.

edited for spelling and typos
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 08:26 PM
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2. I said before he started the war that he was opening a can of worms...
he would never be able to put the lid back on again. Sometimes, it just isn't fun to be right. I hope all his backers are happy.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 08:30 PM
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3. Somehow I'm thinking that's exactly what Bushco wanted.
This is a recipe for maintaining a perpetual war, which leaves the American people with the need for a perpetual autocratic leader. Somebody in the administration has been reading his Orwell.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 08:33 PM
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4. This just fits into what GOP Presidential Candidate Ron Paul brought up
....at the Republican debate a few weeks ago that terrorists attacked us on 9/11 because we were over there and will continue to attack us because we remain there. It also has been researched, studied and written about:

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War Helps Recruit Terrorists, Hill Told
Intelligence Officials Talk Of Growing Insurgency


By Dana Priest and Josh White
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, February 17, 2005; Page A01

The insurgency in Iraq continues to baffle the U.S. military and intelligence communities, and the U.S. occupation has become a potent recruiting tool for al Qaeda and other terrorist groups, top U.S. national security officials told Congress yesterday.

"Islamic extremists are exploiting the Iraqi conflict to recruit new anti-U.S. jihadists," CIA Director Porter J. Goss told the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

"These jihadists who survive will leave Iraq experienced and focused on acts of urban terrorism," he said. "They represent a potential pool of contacts to build transnational terrorist cells, groups and networks in Saudi Arabia, Jordan and other countries."

On a day when the top half-dozen U.S. national security and intelligence officials went to Capitol Hill to talk about the continued determination of terrorists to strike the United States, their statements underscored the unintended consequences of the war in Iraq.

"The Iraq conflict, while not a cause of extremism, has become a cause for extremists," Goss said in his first public testimony since taking over the CIA. Goss said Abu Musab Zarqawi, a Jordanian terrorist who has joined al Qaeda since the U.S. invasion, "hopes to establish a safe haven in Iraq" from which he could operate against Western nations and moderate Muslim governments.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28876-2005Feb16.html

Also, terrorism has been compared to cults but certainly far more dangerouse and lethal. The recruit organize and train much like cults:

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Terrorists Are Made, Not Born:
Creating Terrorists Using Social Psychological Conditioning

Anthony Stahelski, Ph.D.

March 2004

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Anthony Stahelski received his Ph.D. in social and organizational psychology from the University of California at Los Angeles in 1981. He is a professor at Central Washington University and director of the Master’s Program in Organization Development, which trains leaders to improve the effectiveness and efficiency of groups and organizations. His research interests focus on various dynamics of small group interaction, particularly as manifested in cults and extremist groups. He has taught courses on the psychology of terrorism and has presented seminars on the mindset of a terrorist to law enforcement personnel in the state of Washington.



Psychologists have thus far been unable to verify the existence of an individual-level universal terrorist profile. This disappointing finding makes the search for terrorists who appear and act normally in a larger population of non-terrorists much more difficult. However, sociologists and social psychologists have discovered that terrorist groups use cult-like conditioning techniques to convert normal individuals into remorseless killers. The premise of this article is that the limited global counterterrorism resources should focus on eradicating the terrorist group training camps where the conditioning takes place, rather than on trying to find terrorists after they have already been conditioned. Five phases of conditioning are described: depluralization, self-deindividuation, other-deindividuation, dehumanization, and demonization. All conditioning phases are supported by powerful group dynamics that reinforce the effectiveness of the conditioning. It appears that most terrorist groups use all or most of the social psychological conditioning and support processes described here. Since the cult-conditioned products of these processes are currently the most dangerous individuals on the planet, the article concludes with several recommendations for disrupting and possibly eliminating the groups and the training facilities, in order to stop the production of terrorist operators.

Terrorism researchers have generally concluded that most terrorists are not initially psychopaths,1 that most terrorists are not obviously or consistently mentally ill,2, 3 and that there is as of yet no identified universal terrorist personality pattern.4

These findings are unfortunate. Counterterrorism efforts would be enhanced if likely terrorist candidates could be preemptively identified on a precise individual basis.

However, less universal efforts at individual terrorist characteristic identification have been somewhat more successful. In the 1970s, German and Italian researchers had access to captured members of and government documents about the Red Army Faction and the Red Brigades. The researchers identified some family background commonalities: Many terrorists came from families where the father was absent or, even when the father was present, the children were estranged from the father.5, 6 More recent observations of modern terrorist groups indicate that some terrorists come from “broken” homes, where the father is absent, estranged, or economically or politically impotent.7

Additionally, some terrorist group joiners are individuals who have had difficulty forming consistent group identities outside the home, such as school or the workplace.8
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http://www.homelandsecurity.org/journal/Articles/stahelski.html

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FACTNet News Opinion/Editorial 10/05/01

Subject: Mind Control Cult Involvement in World Trade Center Bombings

Behind the World Trade Center and the Pentagon bombings was the involvement of a mind control cult just as a mind control cult was behind the Aum Shinrikyo sarin gas attacks in the Tokyo subways. Leading cult and mind control experts have confirmed that the terrorists are members of a mind control cult that had expediently hijacked and distorted Islamic religious dogma. But just how one of the world’s oldest and most secretive cults is involved will follow after a little background on the mind control element behind this terrorism…

The individuals who perpetrated the World Trade Center bombings acted because of a set of ideas and values that they "believed." These ideas and values seem to most of us not just extreme, but insane (i.e. suicide and the killing of innocent others.) To find out why, who and what actually caused the World Trade Center bombings you have to go beyond considering the mere scaffolding of any possible defensible rationality of the ideas, values and motivations held by the terrorists or that of the people who sent them. When you see the terrorist’s actions through the two lenses of mind control and the psychology of how to create and maintain a destructive cultic group, you will understand the real method used to implant the ideas and values that ultimately motivated their horrific acts.

More importantly, when the US government and military also begin to see the World Trade Center terrorists as members of a mind control cult and that the cult terrorist and the cult fanatic are essentially the same, they will be more successful in hindering future acts of terrorism. The statement that the World Trade Center terrorists were members of a mind control cult does not imply in any way that the terrorists must not be handled with swift and appropriate physical intervention and detention to prevent more terrorist acts. It means that if the US government response is appropriate to the proper handling of the actual mind control and cult causes of the attacks it won’t make as the FBI lack of understanding of mind control cults did at WACO.

How the World Trade Center and the Pentagon Cult Terrorists were manufactured:

Experts on Middle Eastern terrorists have discovered that they are regularly recruited from ultra-fundamentalist Islamic religious schools.** In these schools the potential recruits are subjected a severe process of mental exercises, discipline and testing far more difficult than that of the terrorists’ physical training in the training camps.

This known clue is important because it links directly to the long history of mind control cult terrorism in the Arabic world. As early as the 7th century AD a cult called the Hashishin was already in the terrorism business. (Hashishin is the derived source of the modern word assassin.)
<MORE>

http://www.factnet.org/letters/FACTNewsOctober2001.html





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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 09:54 PM
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5.  Bush created a terrorist training ground in Iraq
Bush created a terrorist training ground in Iraq:

Heckuva job, Bush. Heckuva legacy. And, for the record, this didn't happen when Saddam Hussein controlled Iraq. This happened when George Bush controlled Iraq.

Bush and Cheney, who claim they're fighting terrorists, never caught Osama Bin Laden who did attack us. Instead, they've been the best recruiters for Bin Laden's cause.

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