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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 01:09 PM
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Homophobic extremists attack gay activists in Russia
Edited on Mon May-28-07 01:32 PM by LeftishBrit
http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,,2089413,00.html

This is scary! They are a horrifying bunch of people.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 01:21 PM
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1. Russian Neo-Nazis?
I guess that must mean they do have Bush supporters in Russia.
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mediawatch Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 01:28 PM
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4. The Neo-Nazis
in this country believe Russia will be their savor. I kid you not
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 02:45 PM
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9. Yes and your occasional orthodox priest thrown in for good measure
And Luzhkov (gay demonstrations "the work of satan") sounds like a really swell mayor doesn't he? Hell, let's all move to Moscow.

Or Poland.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 01:24 PM
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2. And the religious fanatics think they're better people
Doesn't look that way now. :grr:
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 01:28 PM
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3. "Gay activist arrested and beaten in Russia" is the title the Guardian gave the article.
Edited on Mon May-28-07 01:34 PM by Benhurst
If you are going to change it, "Neo-Stalinists attack gay activists in Russia" might be more accurate, although the Guardian does call them neo-fascists.

Stalin was quite repressive when it came to homosexuality and everything else, for that matter! I think neo-Stalinist would have served the article better. :shrug:
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 01:33 PM
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5. 'Neo-Nazis' was the term used in the article itself; but I've changed it to 'Homophobic extremists'.
Edited on Mon May-28-07 01:37 PM by LeftishBrit
as that describes the bastards involved without making political-party assumptions, which I'm not really in a position to check.

However, there certainly are explicitly neo-Nazi and fascist groups in Russia - here is a description from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-nazis#Russia

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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 01:47 PM
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6. Thanks for the link. I really don't know either. These people
may, in fact, be neo-nazis; but I would imagine there even more neo-Stalinists. Both groups are frightening.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 01:55 PM
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7. I've never heard of neo-Stalinists
Neo-nazism is a real phenomenon.

Is Neo-stalinism a real phenomenon, or is it just a label?
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 02:04 PM
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8. It's a real phenomenon. There are those in the former Soviet Union
Edited on Mon May-28-07 02:07 PM by Benhurst
and Eastern block former communist countries who want a return to communism, Crazy Joe Stalin style.

Those were the days, comrade. We thought they'd never end.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 06:30 PM
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11. A fair number of Russians have problems confronting their history.
The USSR liberated the various allegedly oppressed nations, and gave their blood and money to help them be civilized and advanced. Stalin's crimes against humanity are overstated, and most of the dead died of disease and starvation--certainly not Stalin's fault (this bit rather sounds like Turkey's 'defense' of the Armenian genocide). The USSR was a great, noble mission, undermined and destroyed by the vile West, those nasty Jews and homosexuals.

Yada, yada, yada.

It surfaces not so much in 'fine' literature, although some upstanding sorts of works make flippant remarks about the tin-foilery and bigotry that runs rampant (Sorokin's "Ice" has fun with it). But there's sort of an unter-literature that revels in it. Disgusting, really.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 02:46 PM
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10. Russia is a dangerous place for non-whites and gays
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 06:38 PM
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12. Less dangerous now than before. According to the article
homosexual sex was a crime until 1993.
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