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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:03 AM
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Bloomberg -
what's he like? I don't know anything about him.

Just wondering if i will like him more than the 3 stooges....

Hopey, Screamy and Queeny :crazy:
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:08 AM
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1. Okay, now YOU made me laugh!
Hopey, Screamy, and Queeny???
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:10 AM
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2. Well.....
You want to give it a try? :P
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:11 AM
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3. Can't top that one
It was too perfect! You get two big thumbs up.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:15 AM
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6. But who's who? I need a program to tell them apart.
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:13 AM
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4. Love the nicknames
I can't get excited about the three stooges either. I don't want another dynasty...so that let's out queenie. Edwards reminds me of that used care salesman trying to sell me a lemon. I like Obama, but I have gotten some really nasty E-mails calling him the muslim Manchurian candidate. If I have gotten those E-mails, half of America has. I'm not sure Obama can overcome Osama-Obama and the Hussein middle name.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:15 AM
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7. A lot depends on who the republicans pick
I think Obama has a good chance. I just wish he'd actually say something. I'm too old for all the HOPE crap without substance.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:17 AM
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9. How about "CHANGE?" Even the Rethugs have resorted...
to using it.

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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:22 AM
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10. Oh yeah, that really does it for me!
Change, Hope, This is our moment............give me a break. We've heard it all before.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:23 AM
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13. Trouble is, he's a child. Fuck. Don't make me think about it, please? I have
to just get Zen about all this, and maybe head off to Rigel-3 for a Kalpa or two so the Wheel might turn on this darkness.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:25 AM
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15. I agree - sorry - I guess I was just thinking out loud.
We do not need to think about this tonite.

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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:35 AM
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16. Don't be sorry sister. You're o.k. and I'm o.k. and the
future will be as it will be. But a good book, a warm fire, a cup of tea and the weather storming outside is sometimes a lot more comforting than thinking about tomorrow.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:00 AM
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18. Well said - as always!
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:40 AM
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17. Yeah, I know all about that HOPE crap you speak of
I'm not supporting anybody else right now. I just want to keep the house and senate so Joe can continue questioning the evil doers...and I don't mean Al Qaeda
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:23 AM
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12. That's just it -
I know I could never vote for Edwards.
And Hillary - it's the dynasty thing, and I cannot forgive her for her vote on Kyl/Lieberman. I can't believe she fell for Bush's lies again, and pissed off the Muslim community even more.
That leaves Obama. And I don't think he can win. But he is a good man, an intelligent man. I just don't know if he is ready. Out of the three, I like him the best. But I think the repugs are going to rip him to shreds.

Well, maybe I don't have to decide. I am just going to write in Biden on my ballot.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:13 AM
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5. I"m with you...it really is a problem now, isn't it. Anybody on EITHER
ticket is going to require a hall monitor. If I can't draft Joe Biden, I'm presently leaning toward working with Al or Joe on things that matter, and ignoring 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:16 AM
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8. There was a thread (I think in GD) a few days back....
that quoted an article describing Bloomberg as being an incredibly sexist control-freak with his female employees. Apparently, he constantly comments on what they wear and criticizes them if it's not sexy enough.

That sure bumped him off my list!

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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:22 AM
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11. Oh Yuck!
Guess I'll stick with what we've got.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:24 AM
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14. Oh great - just what we need - interns in the oval office....
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:39 AM
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19. Surprises me to hear that;
sounds more like gov. rich...

I heard a Bloomberg speech some time ago, and was impressed. Not sure if this is the one, but may be helpful:

'Partisanship may be King in Washington - but the rest of us don't have to pay tribute. Standing at the crossroads, we have a choice: In one direction: the swamp of dysfunction. And in the other: the bridge that spans the divide.

All of us in this room know the right way - let's get moving. Thank you.'

http://annenberg.usc.edu/AboutUs/News/070620CeaseFire/BloombergSpeech.aspx



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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:46 PM
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22. I stopped being lazy and found the link.
It's posted downthread.

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nyc 4 Biden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:01 AM
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20. bloomy...
bloomy is his nickname here in ny. he is just a very smart businessman who doesnt stand for the status quo. he thinks independently and acts accordingly. i guess that isnt terribly difficult when youre a brazillionaire. like edwards, he is a self-made man. he has high approval ratings here, and people like him a lot more than rudy.

one thing going against him is that he has a really whiny voice. he does take the subway to work city hall and even lists his address and phone number publicly(at least he used to).

I know he tried to fix the dept of education in his first term but it may have made it worse. the new system gives schools grades, which i think is a very bad idea. the failing schools lower esteem in those neighborhoods and make people leave the school instead of try to fix it. also, instead of measuring a group of students as they progress from grade to grade, the system measures one year's students against the previous year's, blaming or praising the administration for the natural fluctuations between the two. another bad idea.

he is just a typical businessman politician, he will make you think everything is better by showing you statistics, you'll have to decide the truth on your own.




here is an article about the sexual harassment charges, it doesnt say much though:
http://www.observer.com/node/45478
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:44 PM
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21. Here's the thread and link about sexual harrassment:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3913461


"Full Bloom"

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/media/columns/medialife/5349/

"The documents create a picture of not just a hostile sexual environment but a truly weird one. This isn't Clintonesque lunging on Bloomberg's part, but rather, what is alleged here is a broader, more juvenile kind of control. Bloomberg's company is a playground, or clubhouse, or frat house, with Bloomberg himself as the strangely removed but obviously volatile bully or grand master or BMOC. That Bloomberg is the boss may be much more the point than the sex -- insults, and the power to get away with insults, are more important than gratification.

There's the alleged dress code for Bloomberg women: short skirts and "fuck me" shoes. Bloomberg, in these papers, frequently admonishes his female employees on how they should dress, and on what he finds attractive.

The pregnancies of his female employees -- another issue, according to the papers, that he dwells on -- he seems to take as a kind of betrayal. (Or is it just the distraction of an employee's private life that he resents?) On top of his "Kill it" admonition to Garrison, he allegedly bemoans that she is the sixteenth person in the company to take maternity leave.

The Michael Bloomberg depicted here seems often to be sensing the possibility of sexual betrayal (even on the part of people with whom he is not sexually involved). When Bloomberg sees Garrison speaking with Bill Beutel, the local news anchor, at a Corporate Challenge road race in Central Park, Bloomberg, in the presence of other employees, accuses her, allegedly, of wanting to have sex with the anchorman.

A sense of proprietorship over his female staff is another constant theme in these papers. He tells Garrison, in one instance, that he doesn't like her dress. "Your ass looks huge in it," she says he said.

Perhaps most of all, these papers depict a sense of a remarkable lack of control on Bloomberg's part, or a presumed absolute freedom to say whatever comes into his mind -- it's a kind of corporate-culture Tourette's syndrome. "If you had to, would you rather do that or that?" Bloomberg questioned Garrison, she says, wanting her to choose between a newly hired older female employee or an overweight male employee. The portrait in the papers is of someone who just can't seem to stifle himself."

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UGH!
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