I may need some help here...

newly posted in gdp. The deal is sealed.

:-)

is that thingy a link? How's it work? what is posted in GDP?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4038505&mesg_id=4038505

And a poster included a link to a REALLY good article, if you're interested.

I didn't think I should post a link to my post...so I posted a post without a link...

And I like your post!

lord knows we can't tolerate that sort of disruptive behavior in this otherwise oh-so-proper model of decorum

I'm stuck with it for a while. Nancy is a candidate running for office in Michigan. She is fantastic, and would make a wonderful Congress Critter. She is not in my district, but the district she is in is held now by a total ass-wipe.

So, the thingy is replacing my cranky frog for a while. I must say I miss him. Now how stupid is that? A dumb frog compared to replacing a bad Congress Critter. And I'm whining. But....

:dunce: I can wear one of these once in a while.

the thingy to which I made reference is the bookmark

anyway, Now i saw your post and read through the comments. good post, and comments weren't bad. i added a couple of snarky retorts.


Sadly, I think you are spot-on w/respect to THE PLAN. The MACHINE has been running this country for a while - I think they got pretty well locked in during Reagan years. They were working on it before that; had some false starts. They rode out the Clinton years without too many setbacks, and then really started ramping up the takeover the day jr was inaugurated. They started poring thru phone records right away. You are correct that they has a PLAN, and they got to work implementing it big time.

The asasination of JFK, I think, was the first real evidence of how serious "they" took their agenda. It makes me feel very helpless, but at the same, very vigilant, pissy, and determined. I think because I'm older, and closer to my natural death, that I'm more willing to buck the system at any expense. Of course, I haven't been waterboarded yet, so I guess I should hold my toughness on hold.

Love your posts, frog, and missing mine. (Had to give it up for political reasons...that I approve of..of course..)

long before tinfoil.

Much of the dissension amongst the founders in how to design the government was in whether to actually let We the People have a say in anything. Hamilton and Jefferson were at loggerheads. Jefferson won. It's been going on ever since. If Jackson had not taken out the 2nd Bank of the United States, we'd have turned from representative democracy to oligarchy over 150 years ago.

Were it not for the Depression having prompted the New Deal (they had overplayed their hand and the peasants were suffering a bit TOO much) they'd have cemented control in the 30's.

Ike warned that the MIC was coming, and he was oh-so-right. You are correct, IMO, that JFK's win was another setback they just were not going to put up with.

"They" are the modern-day version of the medieval nobility, and "they" manipulate the serfs into doing their bidding. They use disinformation, sesame-street style techniques to "educate" in a form of mind control that gives them the puppets they need in the supposed positions of power.

Yes, there is a Plan, and it is moving along nicely.

My goal is to either see it reversed, or die before I have to see it completed. We may have to organize a big kool-aid-drinking protest - maybe in a cornfield in Iowa - a few years hence. I bet we could get most of the people who remember Woodstock to show up. Can't you picture a bunch of octogenarians rocking to 50-year-old music, getting wasted, maybe getting naked, then capping it off with a mass 'buh-bye!"

We could lie down and spell out some sort of message with our bodies.

Ahhh...what a visual you've given me. I'm not sure how pretty it is, but it's interesting.

Old geezers gettin' groovy!

:)

:hide:

When I got up this morning, I checked to see if there were any responses to my deal thread, that I felt the need to address, and was surprised to see it had gotten quite a few recs. So my not-as-humble-as-I'd-like-it side had to go see it on the Greatest page. It isn't there. Weird...oh, well. I've slapped myself for my vanity, and thrown out the platform shoes.

I did respond to only one insult from one of the most notorious insult and runners. Couldn't resist...down vanity, down boy. LOL

PS thanks for the backing. Best damn group of individuals on the site. But that makes sense, considering how we all came together. Joe, we still got yer back, bud.

How, when one of us puts the call out, the others are THERE. And I was ALSO thinking that we're probably the only group who is so tight.

Musketeers.

And I have to agree with you again -- Joe attracts the best!

Too bad there aren't MORE of us!!!

You did it with a bit of humor but made your point very well.

I've really enjoyed your thread and hope it stays alive. I'll contribute something more when I clear my head. I woke up with those ideas floating in my head and a very dismal picture of the future.

(and I have NO expertise in the area) in an effort to see what would be the next best move for him numerologically. :crazy:

I used to know a bit about numerology but have forgotten most of it.

The Life Path 2
Natural Skill Set: A diplomat, an arbitrator, master of tact and persuasion, sincerity, builder of consensus, spiritually influenced, extroverted, a gather of facts. With excessive 2 energy or negative application of 2 energy: Caught up in too much detail, timidity, failure to take action, slyness, lack of courage. Historians have ranked Ronald Reagan (11) highest among the seven Life Path 2 Presidents.

Joseph Biden (D), Senator from Delaware
b.11-20-1942, Life Path 11/2
Joseph Robinette Biden Jr., Destiny 8

Joe Biden is certainly one of the most qualified men for the Presidency without all of the polarizing baggage of others near the top of the Democrat candidate list. His knowledge on foreign relations, terrorism, drug policy, and crime prevention is unique. With his Life Path 2 diplomacy, and powerful Destiny 8, he would be one who should restore America's image and respect around the world in short order. Nomination is a tough road for a Senator, but Joe Biden may be up for the task.


Gone, before the primaries heated up. Too bad.


Here is a link if you want to compare him to the other candidates:

http://www.astrology-numerology.com/num-candidates.html

I'm a live path 2, too. That's about all I know, but I'm proud to share that with Joe!

Gee Gateley, maybe you missed your calling! You've got my vote.

Thanks for your vote! It means the world to me. :loveya:

Can I be your VP?

I'll need to get bumper stickers and t-shirts.

Just read through your thread. You invoked quite a discussion. bravo!

And, you deserve mucho kudos for putting certain DUers in their place.

:yourock:

It's been something that's been on my mind for a while. One of my work pals and I have been running through a bunch of different "plans" by the real evil doers, trying to figure out how this election is going to come out.

We've pretty much settled on two possibilities:

1. McCain wins, or Hillary may be acceptable. McCain sealed the deal with the infamous hug. So we know he is on the same page on the agenda. Hillary's acceptability is questionable. We aren't sure how deep her loyalties lie, and she has a bit of a wild independent streak, which makes her less predictable.

2. If it becomes apparent, Edwards or Obama could be runaway favorites, we both agree that the possibility of an emergency (9/11 ish, or Iran) would justify declaring a national emergency, the cancellation of the elections, and possible martial law declared.

It's also necessary to toss into the mix the possibility that a real emergency might transpire with the collapse of our economic system, stock market crash, etc. There would be real panic in this country, and an economic collapse is a real possibility, thanks to the failure of this administration. Or has that been part of the plan all along?

Add to all these warm fuzzy thoughts, there is also the problems with election fraud, and voter disenfranchisement, ie voter ID, purges in the voter rolls, etc.

Bottom line is we both feel that We the People have less to say about the outcome of this election, than most are comfortable believing. If we are correct, than more than likely, none of the Dem candidates are 100% acceptable to those that are in "control". What the People of this country want is moot, and does not fit into the agenda. That much has been "proven" (IMHO) by the fact we are still in Iraq, our Constitutional rights are being shredded, two elections have already been stolen, and the top 1% are the only ones that are financially stable right now.

Tinfoil, paranoid thoughts, perhaps. I don't know if my vivid imagination has gone over the top, or if, like so many, I just don't want it to be true, and so I'm still not completely comfortable in my beliefs, having some self-doubts.

I guess I met my objective by my post, which was to get people thinking. And of course, the usual non-thinkers attempted to disrupt the thought process that was emerging and the ensuing discussion. Don't care about them. They are a part of the problem.