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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 04:56 PM
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You know what, you guys? Someone posted a thread on who should be SOS (like we have any input :7). But as I was thinking through the possibilities, I kept coming back to the view that nobody would be as good as Joe in that position. No to Powell because of what he did for the Bush admin (which is kind of too bad, because other than that -- and if he endorsed Obama and became a Dem, he'd be good), Iffy about Clark, but only because he just isn't as tuned into all of the players as well as Joe is (plus, there's the mandatory waiting period, and it doesn't seem as though he and Obama are very sympatico these days.) No to Susan Rice -- brilliant, sharp, but just doesn't have the chops yet.

I can't think of anyone who would be so well suited as Joe. Sigh. And it's going to be a very crucial position.

What do you guys think?


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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 04:57 PM
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1. John Kerry but doubt he wants to give up Senate seat. Biden probably has advisors
who might be good, and a list of folks who worked for Clinton.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 05:25 PM
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3. I'm laughing at myself --
Of COURSE Biden and Obama would know who the perfect person would be! I won't let it worry me any longer! :7

Kerry would be wonderful, but you may have a point (although SOS would be pretty enticing). And I'm not sure he'd want to abandon his State with Kennedy's health an issue.


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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 05:00 PM
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2. for a novel pick, Hagel? nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 05:26 PM
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4. He'd certainly be qualified. And I know Joe, at least, regards him highly
(I'm guessing Obama does, too.)


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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 04:41 AM
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14. When I am asked (one of these days)
that's who I am going to suggest.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 06:36 PM
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5. Ya know - there's been alot of crap going on in Pakistan the last few days.
I bet it's killing Joe in the inside.
He's probably so torn. Pakistan was his area of expertise; yet his priority is getting Obama into the WH.

Maybe Obama will pick Richard Holbrooke.
Kerry would be excellent as well, but with Biden being gone, I kinda think we need Kerry in the SFRC.
Kerry is the only other one I trust 100% on foreign affairs.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 06:43 PM
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6. He could pick Richardson
Richardson has been kissing butt for quite a while and I think he wants to get back to Washington.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 06:53 PM
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7. Yeah -
I leave it at that.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 10:54 PM
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12. I know what you mean
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 04:43 AM
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15. I'd rather have him go back to NY (UN) n/t
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:25 AM
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17. I kinda want Gore for U.N. Ambassador, but he could take State too. nt
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 06:54 PM
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8. Know what I think?
Edited on Wed Sep-17-08 06:56 PM by 1corona4u
Obama and Joe said something in the 60 minutes interview, about what kind of role Biden would play, and I think they have an agreement, that Joe will play a much larger role in that function than any past VP. SO, that person will have to share Biden's mindset as well on foreign affairs. They might even be a.....more docile person, so that Joe has a bit more influence.

That's my thought. So, based on that, who would fit that bill?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:25 PM
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9. I'd love that --
I'm having a hard time thinking though, who the person could be. I bet it would bug Joe to see whoever it is flying off to talk to the head of a country when he knows he could probably do it better.

As for Richardson, I don't know how his rapport is with world leaders -- how he's viewed. Anybody?


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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:27 PM
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10. Very good thinking. Hmmm... I think the cabinet is going to be filled with
very smart mofos - a lot like Camelot.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 09:11 PM
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11. NO WAITING PERIOD
for General Clark as SOS; just as SOD.

I think Wes is tuned into all of the players, plus more. My concern relates to your point about 'sympatico;' I think there's a problem there, but its just my opinion.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:17 AM
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13. Richard Clarke?
He might be in this administration. I met him in Munich and he is a darn smart guy. He might be better DHS head?
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:57 AM
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16. You stole my idea.....
That was my first thought when I read the OP. He's smart, seems honest, and has the background, but I don't know about face-to-face negotiations. He might fit better as the DHS head. I would think he would be honest about his comfort level with the SOS position.

I could easily imagine some sort of spot in the administration for him. He was one of the first to sound the alarm bells about the lying weasel regime. Seems fitting.

Once again, the great minds of the Bidenites hard at work!
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:13 PM
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18. Richard Clarke is a very interesting character
He is not one to get off on the limelight, he is somewhat reserved, and very cool -- he could fill some role, for sure. Very pensive man.

Here's a picture I took of him exactly a year ago this month.



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