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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:47 AM
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I am hearing little murmurs that Biden's plan for Iraq is going to happen
That this is what the administration is going to propose.
Olbermann mentioned it very briefly tonite.

And just checking on the news - one more time - wink - and came across this:
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=5&article_id=85111

The strategist notes that the administration is simultaneously moving toward a second longtime Democratic goal - of allowing a "soft partition" of Iraq at a time when national political reconciliation seems impossible. This soft-partition approach is inherent in Petraeus' "bottom-up" alliance with Sunni tribal leaders in Anbar Province, which is the big success he and Ambassador Ryan Crocker will report. The consistent champion of this idea of bottom-up devolution of power has been Democratic Senator Joseph Biden. So that's a "yes," too, if the Democrats choose to accept it.
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Then there is this - written by a repub talking head:

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070907/OPINION03/709070308/1007/rss07

Iraqis are partitioning their own country -- we might as well go along

It took political Washington a good six months to catch up to the fact that something significant was happening in Iraq's Anbar province, where the former-insurgent Sunni tribes switched sides and joined the fight against al-Qaeda. Not surprisingly, Washington has not yet caught up to the next reality: Iraq is being partitioned -- and, like everything else in Iraq today, it is happening from the ground up.

Joe Biden, Peter Galbraith, Leslie Gelb and many other thoughtful scholars and politicians have long been calling for partition. The problem is how to make it happen. Top-down partition by some new constitutional arrangement ratified on parchment is swell, but how does that get enforced any more than the other constitutional dreams that were supposed to have come about in Iraq?
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:toast: :bounce:
What an emotional rollercoaster these last two days has been!
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:59 AM
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1. This is great news
I did hear Biden mentioned briefly on Countdown but, you really did your homework. I've believed for a long time that Biden would get media attention for he "does", not for his campaigning.

Hopefully you'll sleep well tonight!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:08 AM
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2. I find alot of this stuff at Huffington Post
I type in Biden where it says search.
Both articles were there.

If this is true - this can be a huge boost for him.
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demommom Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:27 AM
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3. Iknow one thing I will sleep better and my disposition has improved already.
Thanks Pirhana. Good Job! Now we know why Edwards jumped on board.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:15 AM
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4. Me too!
Thanks Pirhana for the ray of hope!
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demommom Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:39 PM
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11. kick
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demommom Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:03 PM
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9. kick
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mrigirl Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:33 PM
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5. Thanks pirhana
for the good news! Let's see if he gets any press from this!!! What does he have to do to get in the news??? Save the world???? Hopefully America will realize Biden is out there and getting it done in Iraq. Go Joe!!!!!!!
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:51 PM
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6. Well... I am not so sure about that...
not sure that an endorsement from Bush & Co is necessarily a good thing..
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:52 PM
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7. To have the military say that Biden was right is the biggest endorsement
he could get.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:22 PM
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8. I would agree, but for the fact
that the military (e.g., Petreas, how on earth is the man's name spelled???) is viewed more and more as carrying the administration's water. Not always though, and it could be an interesting development, we shall see. I hope you are right and I am wrong.
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demommom Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:33 PM
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10. kick
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 06:43 PM
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12. Check this out !!!
From John Kerry on This Week with Snuffy-

Kerry: And the fact of the matter is - John McCain just said there isn’t going to be a "soft partition" in Iraq – well the fact of the matter George is that their already is a soft partition in Iraq. At the beginning of this war Baghdad was 65% Sunni, today it is 75% Shia. And the fact is that you’ve had tens of thousand of Iraqis who have been driven out of their communities. And one of the reasons the violence is down is because this level of partition is already taken place.
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C'mon Kerry - just say it already
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